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chrisc
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Posted - 13/07/2012 :  05:25:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not sure if any of you have seen this so thought id post it.
An open letter for publication

The International Herpetological Society - Doncaster Show, 17th June 2012

Tim Wass MBE, Independent Animal Welfare Consultant

Richards Story

Last Sunday I met Richard. That's not his real name and having to change it to protect him shows you just how ridiculous this has all become. If some are to be believed, Richard sits atop a cruel and exploitative trade in wild animals which is responsible for raping the natural resources of far flung countries.

I had been asked to conduct a full and open animal welfare review of the International Herpetological Societies (IHS) show in Doncaster. I approached the event with all the normal "eyes wide open" trepidation that I usually do. Am I going to unearth horrible secrets and evidence of animal abuse? Will they be open with me, and most importantly, if I see problems or identify opportunities for improvement will they listen and act?

A large sports hall is laid out with about a hundred tables, each is occupied by a member of the IHS or another group such as the Federation of British Herpetologists. You can only have a stand if you are a member and you cannot have one if you run a pet shop or are registered for VAT. In other words this is an event for private hobbyists like Richard who in his case breeds snakes and wants to sell so called surplus animals.

Hang on though, that sounds cruel in itself doesn't it; "Surplus" i.e. not wanted. Well think for a moment about every animal breeder at the Kennel Club or at the National Cat Fancy. Their members are questing to produce the very best example of their chosen breed or species of animal and they certainly can't keep every animal they breed. Reptile breeders and hobbyists like Richard are no different.

All the members had been written to and asked to cooperate with me fully and to give me completely open access, they did and I will use Richard to illustrate.

He has a very professional, clean and organised stand which displays his own forty or so infant snakes, all are healthy and born here in the UK, in other words Captive Bred. Back at home Richard has a room dedicated to his hobby. I tell him that I think he is slightly strange and he agrees with enthusiasm.

On his stand he has a range of species specific care sheets which he produces at his own cost and freely hands out. He is proud that he "interrogates" potential buyers of his animals and even more proud that twice already that day he had refused to sell a snake because in one case he didn't believe the man had the right level of knowledge, and in the other there was "just something about him I didn't like"

Whilst I know nothing whatsoever about Snakes, that doesn't mean I can't and don't appreciate their beauty and diversity. So when I pay particular attention to a small and beautifully brightly coloured creature. Richard says "So you like Ian then?" You have got to be kidding me! He has names for them!

I wasn't born yesterday, so I ask him how he can prove it is called "Ian" and I am invited to pick up the box. Sure enough, under it is a card which tells me that the snake is indeed called Ian, moreover it tells me the names of Ian's Mum and Dad. What his unique reference number is, and it has a record of when Ian last fed.

Still not born yesterday, I muse that all forty must be called Ian? At this point I am introduced to William, and next to him Kate. I pick them up, look at the card, and sure enough the royal namesakes are present and correct.

Richard is a harsh critic of some within his hobby who he says are on a mission to be the first to breed a new genetic morph. He doesn't think it should be about the money but about the beauty of the animals which he loves. He has a point here, I would hate to see the reptile hobby repeat the mistakes others have.

He certainly does not believe that the public should ever be sold wild caught snakes or reptiles generally (they rarely are these days) and wants to work within the hobby to ensure that if someone wants to have a reptile as a pet, that it comes from a reputable breeder or source who has the right knowledge and interest to pass on to the new owner.

Richard freely tells me that he does hear a rumour now again about someone not behaving as they should. What he wants is for the organisations he is a member of to get tough. To self regulate effectively and if necessary to expel any bad apples and to report them to the appropriate authorities. I could not agree more.

As a serious hobbyist with the welfare of his animals uppermost, he is desperate to be recognised and accredited. He should be. Richard and those like him should be held up and hailed for their best practice and conduct, whilst those (few) at the other end of the scale should be sought out and exposed for what they are.

He also believes that specialist pet shops who operate openly, honestly and to the very highest of standards in terms of where their animals come from, together with impeccable welfare and health standards should be accredited. Again he is right.

He has a completely "open" book philosophy and has nothing to hide. Some years ago he became concerned that it could be alleged that he was earning none disclosed income from his hobby so he started submitting full returns to HMRC. In the tax year 2010/2011 his profit was just short of £3000.00. He smiles when he tells me about his "profit", because it goes straight back into supporting his hobby.

It was a pleasure to meet Richard, but please do not think for a moment that he is alone. He is typical of nearly everyone I met at the show and very far removed from the rabid, ill informed and scaremongering animal rights description of them.

There are issues to be addressed within this hobby, some are real, some are perception but all are capable of being solved or improved, given some time, effort and a little money.

What is not up for debate is that pet ownership, including reptiles, is on the increase. Nothing is likely to arrest this trend soon. All that is left then is to decide how we organise ourselves to ensure that it is done properly with correct education, sound husbandry, the best equipment and above all an impeccable approach to animal welfare and conservation.

If you are reading this, and you are one of the tiny percentage who know that you are doing wrong, my message is that you should change or stop now. If you don't, we will find you and you will be dealt with. This great hobby represented by "Richard" and likeminded caring people does not need, want or deserve to have its reputation tarnished by you.

On a personal note, my professional life and vocation has been to find and legally deal with those who abuse animals or visit cruelty upon them. You don't want me knocking at your door.

In a separate report to the IHS and FBH I will lay out what I believe needs to be done to build on the positive progress so far and to ensure the very highest of standards and compliance within the hobby. In the face of lack of formal regulation and licensing it will focus on tough self regulation which will be designed to give everyone confidence that this hobby and the trade surrounding it, is good, wholesome, caring, appropriate and domestically sustainable.

Much of what I recommend will be based on my interview with Richard and others. You know who you are and thank you! If we get this right, you will be able to come out of the shadows and pursue your hobby without fear or intimidation.

Tim Wass.
Formerly Chief Officer Inspectorate, Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (2008 - 2010).

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 13/07/2012 :  11:03:40  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Fantastic, brightened my day.

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Meadow
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Posted - 13/07/2012 :  11:22:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That made for interesting reading; thanks for posting it

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Edited by - Meadow on 13/07/2012 11:22:59
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

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Posted - 13/07/2012 :  18:28:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
a great write up of the show/our hobby

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Cookie
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Posted - 13/07/2012 :  20:34:41  Show Profile  Visit Cookie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good read, I never knew our hobby was such a hot topic. As i keep saying, i love this forum lol

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Cookie
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Posted - 13/07/2012 :  20:35:28  Show Profile  Visit Cookie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well look at that, I am no longer a Snake Mite!!! Yeeehaaa lol....

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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

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Posted - 14/07/2012 :  07:40:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cookie

Good read, I never knew our hobby was such a hot topic. As i keep saying, i love this forum lol



its been a hot topic recently due to the APA stepping up their extremist/unfounded campain to stop us keeping reptiles/exotic animal as pets but thankfully the people from the IHS an FBH got it sorted so the show went ahead as planned and now this great review from the former head of the RSPCA is a great step frowards for our hobby.
everyone should join/donate to the IHS an FBH to help support the hard work that chris newman and the others do for our rights, theres an sticky on here with links to join/donate to them
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9625

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Edited by - chrisc on 14/07/2012 07:40:36
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