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2706gemmalou
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 15/07/2012 : 17:23:49
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| hi i'm new to this forum, but i thought it would be a good place to start. I have a 17 year old RP which was thought to be a male. two years ago i did a breeding program with him and another snake which we thought was a female. this was part of my animal management course. There wasn't any signs of mating etc. this is the only time that he has been introduced to another snake they were together for about for months. but today i have come home and he or she as it maybe is curled around 8 eggs?? as you can imagine im so confused, she shown no signs of being gravid, been eating drinking as normal, didn't seam to become larger etc. the eggs are all different sizes which isnt normal is it? 3/4 of them are quite large white and leathery the others are smaller with a cream sort of colour. i dont know this could be possible will the hatchlings be dead? please someone help me for the sake and health of my much loved pet :-) thank u. |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2012 : 17:44:45
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| Hello There. I think for this you may need a more rapid communication system than the forum offers, if you can email me at Kelfezond@hotmail.co.uk I'll be more than happy to go through things with you quickly. |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2012 : 17:50:23
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2 years ago it was with a male? I would say these eggs are all infertile due to the time frame but with them been large white and leathery they sound fertile, the yellow ones are slugs those will be infertile. If they are been curled around by the snake they will be kept warm. If you previously had a breeding program then dig out the incubator and get it up and running again, give them a few days and then candle the eggs for any blood vessel development. I'm not clued in with eggs or the max time for sperm retention, so hopefully someone with a bit more knowledge will be along soon. If you can post a picture of the eggs it might help them to determine if they are viable.
(If you dont want the eggs or any potential hatchlings then you can just stick the whole lot in the freezer for 24 hours to be sure nothing is developing). |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2012 : 17:51:00
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| See Kelf arrived as I was typing LOL. |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2012 : 17:51:51
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Originally posted by Lotabob
2 years ago it was with a male? I would say these eggs are all infertile due to the time frame but with them been large white and leathery they sound fertile, the yellow ones are slugs those will be infertile.
It's worth candling them anyway straight off the bate, wouldn't judge them as infertile straight away I had a few this year that looked very dodgey but survived. |
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 16/07/2012 : 21:02:10
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Originally posted by 2706gemmalou
but today i have come home and he or she as it maybe is curled around 8 eggs??
Sounds like he must be a she. Sounds like you have some good eggs and some slugs. |
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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1393 Posts |
Posted - 16/07/2012 : 22:14:01
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Should have been obvious he was a she when there was no burping after a feed and she wasn't scratching her butt |
Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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Cookie
Yearling
United Kingdom
205 Posts |
Posted - 16/07/2012 : 23:46:27
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| Wow they can actually hold off for a few years! Thats interesting. Do people just put the eggs in the freezer if they dont want them to develope? And what would you do if you had hatchlings you couldnt rehome, anybody any ideas. Im not having that problem but I am considering breeding this year and I dont want to end up not being able to rehome them. |
1.2.0 Royal Pythons (Sebastian, Romeo & Gypsy)
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2012 : 01:36:48
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Originally posted by Cookie
Wow they can actually hold off for a few years! Thats interesting. Do people just put the eggs in the freezer if they dont want them to develope? And what would you do if you had hatchlings you couldnt rehome, anybody any ideas. Im not having that problem but I am considering breeding this year and I dont want to end up not being able to rehome them.
I guess that should be something you should plan for whatever you breed.More so if you breed something thats very very common.
Space for unsold babies,or sell to pet shops for super low prices. |
1.0.0 pinstripe Royal Python
1.0.0 Bumblebee Royal Python
1.0.0 Normal corn
1.0.0 Extreme red Hognose
0.1.0 Extreme red tiger Hognose
1.1.0 yemen chameleons
1.0.0 Piebald yemen
1.0.0 Tamatave panther
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jonoandapril
Yearling
United Kingdom
455 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2012 : 09:35:18
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| holy moley, never knew they could do that! like boomslang says, should always prep to keep all the babys, even if thats not the plan. stage one of my breeding prep was to build my rack so i had room for a full viable clutch (as unlikely as that was). cant get over a royal being gravid for 2 years! thats incredable! |
1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2012 : 09:58:42
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| Yeah I can testify to that. My first experience with babies was when my newly bought Boa Constrictor turned out to be pregnant, woke up one morning to find 34 babies wriggling in her tank and suddenly had to find a place to house them all! Luckily I had a spare vivarium and they all fit quite nicely into cricket boxes temperarily! |
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