T O P I C R E V I E W |
frambo |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 08:48:38 Aside from the potential for it to be destroyed or killed by the temperatures in viv, is a money plant going to be harmful for a python?
My dad is after me to put on in and see how it does. |
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boomslang |
Posted - 09/01/2013 : 18:09:29 Without the lighting it will die,The snake will climb on it,and most likely destroy it :)
Only snake viv id plant up,or go full natural viv with,is something like a tree python. |
JanieW |
Posted - 07/01/2013 : 19:46:06 For the sake of a plant, in my opinion its not worth the risk. Nobody can say for sure whether or not its harmful. |
jbarlow91 |
Posted - 07/01/2013 : 17:31:35 Don't think she would eat it but when u put it in she will be up at it exploring it and flickering her tongue a lot all over it cause it is something new in her territory don't know if that would cause any problems or not tho |
frambo |
Posted - 07/01/2013 : 14:27:48 Thanks lotabob- the bulb being squeezed was not an idea that I had thought of but I suppose I could get around it by putting a small bulb guard around the bulb. Having read around quite a bit it seems that the species I want to put in can cause oral problems if ingested but is fine to slither around on and climb.
I have never even seen my girl open her mouth inside the viv- have any of you ever had a snake start chomping on plants, fake or otherwise?
Cheers |
Lotabob |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 22:04:44 Part of the reason we guard bulbs is because snakes can and do break them with their super squeezy strength. I wouldn't be happy weakening a bulb by removing the bottom and leaving it within a 2 mile radius of my animals.
Using real plants and soil is possible, you just have to manage the potential risks.
This is a list of toxic plants and woods I stole from the corn snake forum, not sure if its on here but its readily available on TCS I shall ask Kelf to sticky it maybe if its not already.
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2402
Below is a comprehensive list of what live plants were believed to be toxic to reptiles.
If anyone believes there are any missing or need moving, then message a mod and we'll shift it. A vast amount of these were copied, With Permission, from:
CAL ZOO’S REFERENCE SHEET™ TOXIC VEGETATION
When setting up a reptile or amphibian enclosure, not only do you need to know what plants will survive in a given set-up, but will your animals survive if they happen to eat them? You should also be aware some fruits, vegetables or their parts may also be toxic. To determine which plants will fare well in your enclosure, consult your neighbourhood garden centre. Once you have a list of plants you know will survive, check them against this list. These are the most common toxic plants known. There may be other toxic plants available at your local garden centre which are not listed here. If you are in doubt as to whether a certain plant is toxic or not, please consult your local garden centre or visit your local library. All plant parts are toxic unless otherwise noted.
Acokanthera, fruit & flowers Aconite, roots, flowers & leaves Amaryllis Amsinckia Anemone Angel Trumpet Tree, flowers & leaves Apple seeds Apricot seeds Atropa Belladonna Autumn Crocus, bulbs Avacado, seed & foliage Azalea Baneberry, berries, roots & foliage Beach Pea Betal Nut Palm Bird of Paradise Bittersweet, berries Black Locust, bark, sprouts & foliage Bleeding Heart, roots & foliage Bloodroot Bluebonnet Bottlebrush, flowers Boxwood Buckeye Horse Chestnut, sprouts & nuts Buttercup Caladium Calla lily Cardinal Flower Carolina Jessamine, flowers, leaves & sap Casava, roots Castor Bean, seeds Cedar Cherry Laurel Cherry seeds , twigs & foliage China Berry Tree, berries Christmas Berry, berries Christmas Cactus Christmas Rose Columbine Common Privet, berries & leaves Coral Plant Crocus, bulbs Croton Cyclamen Daffodil, bulbs Daphne, berries Deadly Nightshade Death Camus Delphinium Destroying Angel Dieffenbachia Dogwood, fruit Eggplant Elderberry, leaves, shoots & bark Elephant Ears, stems & leaves English Ivy, berries Euphobia, leaves & flowers Fiddle Neck Flase Heliebore Fly Agaric Four O’clock Foxglove Gelsemium Golden Chain, seeds & pod Heliebore Hemlock Roots Henbane Holly, leaves & berries Horsetail Reed Hyacinth Hydrangea Impatiensiris Iris, underground stems Ivy Jack-in-the-Pulpit, root Jasmine Jassamine, berries Jatropha, seeds & oil Jerusalem Cherry, fruit & leaves Jimson Weed Johnson Grass, wilted Lambkill, leaves Lantana Camara, green berries Larkspur, foliage & roots Laurel Lily-of-the-Valley Lobelia Locoweed Locust Lupine, seeds Machineel Marijuana May apple Mescal Milkweed Mistletoe, berries Moccasin Flower Mock Orange Monkshood, foliage & roots Moonseed, berries Morning Glory Mountain Laurel, leaves & shoots Mushroom Narcissus Natal Cherry, berries Nectarine seeds Nictiana, leaves Nightshades Oak, foliage & acorn Oleander, foliage Peach seeds Pear seeds Pennvroval Peony Periwinkle Peyote Philodendron, leaves & sap Pine Pinks Plum seeds Pointsettia, leaves & sap Poison Hemlock Poison Ivy Poison Oak Poison Sumac Pokeberry, roots Pokeweed, roots Poppy (except California Poppy) Potato, uncooked sprouts & foliage Privet, leaves & fruit Ranunculus Redwood Rhododendron Rhubarb, uncooked foliage & stem Rosary Pea, seeds Rosemary, leaves of some varieties Russian Thistle Sage, leaves of some varieties Salmonberry Scarlet Pimpernel Scotch Broom, seeds Senecio Skunk Cabbage, roots Snapdragon Spanish Bayonet Squirrel Corn Star of Bethlehem Stranomium Sudan Grass Sundew Sweet Pea, stems Tansy Taro, stems & leaves Tarweed Tiger Lily Toad Flax Toadstool Tobacco Tomato, vines & foliage Toyon Berry Tree of Heaven Trillium Trumpet Vine Tulip Bulbs Venus Flytrap Verbena Vetch Virginia Creeper Water Hemlock Wild Black Cherry, withered leaves Wild Parsnip Wisteria, seeds & pods Yellow Jasmine Yellow Oleander Yellow Star Thistle Yew, foliage & berries
PLANTS GENERALLY REGARDED AS SAFE
African Violet Aloe Vera Aster Baby Tears Bird’s Nest Fern Bromelaids Coleus Corn Plant Emerald Ripple Ficus Geranium Grass, (grown from seed) Hens & Chicks Hibiscus Impatiens Jade Plants Marigold Painted Nettle Palms Prayer Plant Spider Plant Swedish Ivy Sweet Alyssum Umbrella Plant Wandering Jew Wax Plant Zebra Plant Zinnias
© California Zoological Supply 1996 Reference Sheet #1106
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frambo |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 20:45:28 OK spoken to dad once again and he suggests that like back in the day when he kept his snakes in India I should take an old bayonet light bulb, hollow out the inside from the bottom, fill that up with water, stick the plant in it and then put the bulb in the corner with a rock to support it.
Not a bad idea to be honest, that removes the possibility of her drinking the water though I doubt that would be that bad anyway and makes for something difficult for her to knock over. |
JanieW |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 14:50:12 I don't know Frambo, I don't think personally i'd risk it. If anything happened to your python you'd never forgive yourself. |
frambo |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 14:05:03 Thanks for the reply Lotabob.
That's what I thought but then I realised it's been in my kitchen in a mug of water for the past month and has been absolutely fine hence no need for soil to be involved. I did point out to my dad that it would be hung on and flattened but supposedly they're quite hardy plants.
I'm going to give it a go- at the moment her water bowl is pretty close to the light and that's put the humidity around 55% so it shouldn't go up too much with another water bowl in the cold end.
That being said, she'd be able to drink out of the plant's bowl- the roots aren't going to secrete anything harmful are they? A question for the botanists amongst us perhaps? |
Lotabob |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 13:58:50 If my fake foliage is anything to go by from a relatively inactive Royal, it gets trashed on a regular basis, dragged over and flattened.
Also there is the issue of hygiene, keeping a plant permanently hydrated in such a warm environment will affect the humidity of the vivarium which in itself isn't going to be too much of a problem, but the warm moist soil is a breeding ground for bacteria and mould and when that becomes airborne you have the ideal conditions for a RI.
I do have a couple of high humidity setups, and really struggled to keep them clean and mould free, it took a load of springtails, woodlice and worms to keep the soil clean. One was so bad I switched to kitchen roll as the gecko kept eating all the woodlice. |
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