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blackflame Posted - 27/01/2010 : 16:10:59
Lucy, my 3yr old Royal Python lives in a terrarium heated by one light bulb (runs 9am - 9pm) a ceramic heater (runs 24hrs a day in cold weather, nights only in milder weather. The Ceramic heater is protected by a guard.

I also leave a heating mat under a layer of foam insulation below the glass exterior of the terrarium that underlies half of her hide. so she can sit on the warm side, or the cooler side. I guess the heat gets trapped in the hide to keep it nice and snug.

Temps can drop below 20C in the terrarium on freezing nights (House temperature below 10C), but the warmth mat is always on, and if she stays on that she seems fine.

I was more worried about her being too cold (she had RI once) but now I have read the pieces here about prolonged exposure to heat mats and am concerned as she sits on the warm side all the time.

I am also concerned that the guard over the ceramic bulb also gets really warm (I can't touch it) which seems to me to be totally pointless. She is getting long enough to reach it if she wants.

Anone have any ideas or comments?
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boze Posted - 04/02/2010 : 14:13:05
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony
i think i'd go for the ceramic heating the warm end and just boosting the floor temp in the cold end with a mat sat at about 22-25*C............



Aye that sounds like a much better setup!!

D
matty198111 Posted - 01/02/2010 : 14:54:13
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

quote:
Originally posted by matty198111

just wandered where you were based as it may be possible for someone to come and have a look and help to get the problems sorted much quicker, which would be a benefit to both of you


mat



It says Netherlands under his name, are you volunteering?




well normally im more than happy to help out with what ever i can, think i may give that idea a miss thought.

makes note to self " must clean glasses"

mat
Gingerpony Posted - 31/01/2010 : 21:44:07
quote:
Originally posted by boze

quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

quote:
Originally posted by blackflame

She has one hide on the heat mat...Surface Temp in the hide is 32.5C

Her other hide is NOT on a heat mat, but under a fully guarded 60w ceramic bulb that is on 24/7

Temp on the cool side is 22-25C


so which is the warm end and which is the cool end as you're heating both.......??



Heat mat end is the warm end and ceramic end is the cool end. He has to heat the cool end too as he said his house temps can drop very low.



D


are you sure? i think i'd go for the ceramic heating the warm end and just boosting the floor temp in the cold end with a mat sat at about 22-25*C............
Blackecho Posted - 31/01/2010 : 16:46:59
quote:
Originally posted by matty198111

just wandered where you were based as it may be possible for someone to come and have a look and help to get the problems sorted much quicker, which would be a benefit to both of you


mat



It says Netherlands under his name, are you volunteering?
boze Posted - 31/01/2010 : 16:26:54
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

quote:
Originally posted by blackflame

She has one hide on the heat mat...Surface Temp in the hide is 32.5C

Her other hide is NOT on a heat mat, but under a fully guarded 60w ceramic bulb that is on 24/7

Temp on the cool side is 22-25C


so which is the warm end and which is the cool end as you're heating both.......??



Heat mat end is the warm end and ceramic end is the cool end. He has to heat the cool end too as he said his house temps can drop very low.



D
matty198111 Posted - 29/01/2010 : 19:29:00
also my brother in law found that feeding in as dark a room as possible helped his royal get back on track


mat
matty198111 Posted - 29/01/2010 : 16:53:13
just wandered where you were based as it may be possible for someone to come and have a look and help to get the problems sorted much quicker, which would be a benefit to both of you


mat
Gingerpony Posted - 29/01/2010 : 13:10:15
quote:
Originally posted by blackflame

She has one hide on the heat mat...Surface Temp in the hide is 32.5C

Her other hide is NOT on a heat mat, but under a fully guarded 60w ceramic bulb that is on 24/7

Temp on the cool side is 22-25C


so which is the warm end and which is the cool end as you're heating both.......??
Blackecho Posted - 29/01/2010 : 12:57:39
quote:
Originally posted by blackflame

I have now changed setup in the viv.

She has one hide on the heat mat, with a 25w light bulb above her (on in daytime, gives out little warmth)Surface Temp in the hide is 32.5C

Her other hide is NOT on a heat mat, but under a fully guarded 60w ceramic bulb that is on 24/7 (although I am experimenting with using timer to have it go off for a 2hrs every 4 hrs)

Temp on the cool side is 22-25C

I hope this is OK.

She seemed to spend most of the evening and night exploring her new setup and hanging in her "tree" and this morning was fast asleep in the "warm" hide on the mat.





The temperatures are fine, how are you measuring/controlling them?
Gingerpony Posted - 29/01/2010 : 11:38:59
quote:
Originally posted by Lukee

GP that scares me when you say it will help for the long run, you mean if I dont hes likely to be a devil?:)lol.
Hes a bad feeder he just about ate two mice in the shop before he came to me so... not surprised if he dont eat this week if he does I will be so happy.

the feeding issue, particularly if he's a known poor feeder, is EXACTLY the reason he needs at least a week to settle in, if not 2!
blackflame Posted - 29/01/2010 : 10:37:01
I have now changed setup in the viv.

She has one hide on the heat mat, with a 25w light bulb above her (on in daytime, gives out little warmth)Surface Temp in the hide is 32.5C

Her other hide is NOT on a heat mat, but under a fully guarded 60w ceramic bulb that is on 24/7 (although I am experimenting with using timer to have it go off for a 2hrs every 4 hrs)

Temp on the cool side is 22-25C

I hope this is OK.

She seemed to spend most of the evening and night exploring her new setup and hanging in her "tree" and this morning was fast asleep in the "warm" hide on the mat.

chris100575 Posted - 29/01/2010 : 08:38:19
I agree with GP, I'd not handle him until he's had a week to settle in. If you handle him too early he could get stressed and a stressed royal won't eat.
Lukee Posted - 28/01/2010 : 22:44:32
He absolutly loves to explore as soon as I tur the light of shut the door come back in a second hes out and about exploring and not agressive in any way best snake ever!:)
I mixed between either George or Elmo as a name :)
Lukee Posted - 28/01/2010 : 22:27:01
Them holes all across the side and the same across the sides


GP that scares me when you say it will help for the long run, you mean if I dont hes likely to be a devil?:)lol.
Hes a bad feeder he just about ate two mice in the shop before he came to me so... not surprised if he dont eat this week if he does I will be so happy.
Blackecho Posted - 28/01/2010 : 21:25:13
Lukee, I'd probably have the hygrometer probe near a hide where the snake will be spending most of its time.

I'd like to see a photo to look at the ventilation.
Gingerpony Posted - 28/01/2010 : 20:52:09
i'd wait a week regardless of how he's reacting to the change, it will help in the long run

and your probe being in the middle of the viv is neither use nor ornament!

and to the OP - not sure why you can't get a guard for the light bulb (if you're keeping it).........just a standard guard should do the job like the ones pictured in this link http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=656

try reptiles-ink on here for one.......
Lukee Posted - 28/01/2010 : 20:16:55
hi Blackecho im measuring it with a digital thermostat, in the middle is the probe where the water bowl is?
Also Blackecho is it very essential to keep my ball python in there for a full week as he seems very happy and from what I can see enjoys coming out and having a nose round, can I handle him or what do you think?
Blackecho Posted - 28/01/2010 : 18:34:18
That's a bit high on the humidity yes, how are you measuring it and where?

Have you a photo of the setup?
Lukee Posted - 28/01/2010 : 17:28:38
np everyone changed the hides and just found him exploring and he went into his warm hide, onlyt thing is it a problem if the humidity gets to 75-80% is that likely to cause R.I or?
Lukee Posted - 28/01/2010 : 16:50:10
got my ball python last saturday just a baby and hes always in the cold hide, ive taken the plant pot out and put in Identical hides see if it works, the cool end is room temp about 70 and my hot side never reaches more than 90-93 with a pp stat on a heat mat, so mines basically the same option, because also when you feel them they are kind of hot when they have been on the hot side hes always cold bit worried he might contract ri what you lot think?

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