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austin_89 Posted - 16/04/2012 : 22:14:16
I know i was on the side of rats for the debate we had but I've been feeding Kane mice purely because he will not touch a rat but i know really wanna get him back on to rats (He started feeding on weaners but went into shed and hasnt touched one since) I've tried braining the rat and not had any luck! What else can i do to get him to take it? According to the feeding chart he is a little below average so would like him to put on a little weight...
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LittlestarRed Posted - 21/04/2012 : 11:06:35
I had a similar problem with my Albino, Alice. She was on rats but I couldn't get the right size so substituted for a mouse for 2 weeks....bad idea! I should have known better as she was fussy anyway and would only take white rats. I tried heating the rats up in warm water with a mouse. First time a 50% size prey item of each and fed the mouse first and then the rat. It worked!
The next feed I did the same but with her normal prey size mouse and rat, then just offered the rat. She took it after a fashion (dropped it and kept sniffing then leaving it, finally eating it). I then gave the mouse to another snake who is less fussy! lol.
I'm hoping this week she'll take a normal rat without the faff! *fingers crossed*.

Good luck with the rat problem!
austin_89 Posted - 18/04/2012 : 23:26:43
Yeah tried all that yesterday :(
Strawb Posted - 18/04/2012 : 20:48:56
Have you tried blasting the head of the rat with a hair dryer? It worked for my royal. De-frost it on a mouse for the smell, then heat the head with a hair dryer till you can smell singed hairs then offer that. Something warm and smelling of mouse might do the trick.
n/a Posted - 17/04/2012 : 22:36:59
Yeah, you get some nice smelly used substrate from a tank of mice, and defrost the rat in the same bag, and the rat ends up smelling super-mousey. Only trouble might be, finding a shop that sells pet mice - nowadays it's all miniature hamsters and gerbils and that. (Though might be an idea experimenting with bedding from those to get Kane intrigued lol.) I think it was Royalbob on here who told me about that - never ended up doing that myself as the snakes obliged, but I can imagine it working.
austin_89 Posted - 17/04/2012 : 22:03:43
Mouse bedding?

Yeah I've looked into it but I can't afford that right now.
Danno91 Posted - 17/04/2012 : 21:22:33
Can not add much but you thought of ordering them online
n/a Posted - 17/04/2012 : 21:20:46
Ah, for what it's worth, just remembered another trick with rats, and that's to obtain some used mouse bedding from a pet shop, and defrost the rat in that, make it smell nice and mousey.
austin_89 Posted - 17/04/2012 : 20:04:15
Frankie could take a rat pup i think it was but the smallest rat i can get here is a weaner which Kane could easily take down but Frankie is a bit too small but she will be getting switched to rats soon as I've moved...

He's such a fussy bugger! The pet shops round here aren't exactly reptile shops but where im moving too has a few so ill be able to get everything in a couple of weeks.
n/a Posted - 17/04/2012 : 18:03:56
Ah, sorry - I'd missed that bit about him eating rats before (spring cleaning for the first time in years omg, brain's not operating.)

If he was one of mine, he'd jolly well get a rat and like it lol. I'd personally keep on offering rats, but realise that if the rat goes to waste, that's expensive. Will Frankie eat rats? Even if it means offering him a smaller rat, if Frankie will recycle it if it's refused, it would be easier on your pocket.

Otherwise, yes, if he's really being obstinate, that's another plan, to wait for a month or two till peak feeding period, and try him with rats again.

Good luck with him.

austin_89 Posted - 17/04/2012 : 17:12:41
The most annoying thing is he has eaten rats before!

Would it best to keep feeding him mice so he eats or leave him a bit and try a rat?
n/a Posted - 17/04/2012 : 16:21:25
Little nuisance! Naught lad!

I can't really add to what others have said, save that it IS possible to get mouse-eaters on to rats. With Shahi I was a complete beginner and so scared of him refusing that I let him get away with mice until after his first fast. Then one day he got into a tangle with a mouse and when it was all chewed and soggy I offered him a fresh warm rat - and he took. Surahi I was told would eat nothing but mice, but when I'd had her a while I tried her with a rat - and she took. So they can change their ways.

The only other thing I can think of is, don't worry too much for the present. Imo in May/June and the summer, most royals are really eating well, and you might get a pleasant surprise when offering him a rat. When he does start on rats, he'll put the weight on, but for the meanwhile, as long as he's looking nicely rounded, which he is, don't worry about him being below average weight. Royals are like people - some are small, some large.

Fingers crossed the awkward little git bucks his ideas up and takes a rat for you soon!
austin_89 Posted - 17/04/2012 : 15:29:52
Sadly he didn't eat the rat! I brained it, rubbed a mouse all over it and even put a bit of mouse blood on the head and nothing! So he's now chowing down on a another rat! It's just irritating me now I dunno what else to try! At the minute I can't get hold of any smaller rats.
Waley333 Posted - 17/04/2012 : 15:18:17
I've seen some people say to try them on a smaller sized rodent than you normally would? Maybe that might help?
austin_89 Posted - 17/04/2012 : 11:02:15
No ive not but ill try that thanks... I've tried him on all different size rats and i know the only colour he eats in white ones so i dont bother getting any other colour. He's fussy!
darkblade666 Posted - 17/04/2012 : 07:35:49
Have you tryed senting the rat with mouse rubbing rat on mouse so it smells like a mouse and get rats that look the same the mouse you have been feeding colors and size to start with then when feeding regular on rats can start young sizes to get the weight up

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