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| carlb1981 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 09:07:56
Spotted this on cpr website and couldn't believe it no picture though
http://www.crystalpalacereptiles.com/index.php?option=com_redshop&view=product&pid=1188&cid=32&Itemid=61
correct me if im wrong but hg is hidden gene woma isn't it?
And a hidden gene woma lesser is a soulsucker if world of balls is right and the also have this on there website too
http://www.crystalpalacereptiles.com/index.php?option=com_redshop&view=product&pid=970&cid=32&Itemid=61
that's a big price difference so if im right about the hg in first snake that's not bad price for what i believe is a pastel soulsucker and the male is 100 cheaper again |
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| LittlestarRed |
Posted - 12/09/2012 : 09:14:54
quote:
Originally posted by carlb1981
Id its just the same as a normal lesser pastel then its a couple hundred overpriced so if what your saying is right you should get soulsucker looking morphs from lesser x woma?
The HG Woma is the key to the Soulsucker type morphs. NERD themselves are unclear on what created the original ones and have never reproduced them.
However it was believed that a NERD line (HG) Lesser was required to produce what is now termed a Soulsucker 1.0 (or is that 2.0, sorry if I'm wrong) but others seem to have produced similar with non NERD line Lesser. |
| LittlestarRed |
Posted - 12/09/2012 : 09:10:07
quote:
Originally posted by Kev
My understanding is a soul sucker is hidden gene woma/Lesser.
There is no "normal woma" in soul suckers.
This is my understanding too. |
| Kev |
Posted - 12/09/2012 : 03:05:13
My understanding is a soul sucker is hidden gene woma/Lesser.
There is no "normal woma" in soul suckers. |
| AndyJ80 |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 12:22:55
Here's a link to NERD (Kevin) explaining the soul sucker lineage. Listening to it I think they're not 100% sure what can make a soul sucker, except they confirm a HG Woma x "HG" Lesser can make them but also say a butter could hold the hidden gene which could potentially make a SS
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/videos/maballs-net-nerd-video/440/
EDIT:
if you look at image 7 on this link http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/soul-sucker/
against image 4 on this link http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/mojave-phantom/
who thinks they look very similar??? |
| Danno91 |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 11:40:08
I'm confused what is needed to make a soulsucker |
| carlb1981 |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 11:35:00
Id its just the same as a normal lesser pastel then its a couple hundred overpriced so if what your saying is right you should get soulsucker looking morphs from lesser x woma? |
| LittlestarRed |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 10:05:49
Oh the old HG Lesser myth again! *sigh*. I've been told in person by Dean at CPR myself that Darren insists on still using the HG term for a NERD line lesser. Even though it has no hidden gene! Nor has the HG Woma (yes I know I own one, Hubby LOVES them!). They are different lines and therefore different genetically from other Lessers or Womas!
The HG thing was something that Kevin stuck in the name because he figured there was more at play.
People have created Soulsucker looking morphs from non NERD line lessers I know as a friend who breeds has done just that! There was a video with Kevin admitting he'd heard of such morphs being created with Butters too!
On World of Ball pythons it doesn't specify a line of Lesser to Create a Soulsucker, because it's technically possible with any.
It's still not a bad price for a nice 2 gene male though! |
| Kev |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 20:04:31
That hg lesser has no hg woma in it. I think I'm right in saying that they are lessers from a hgwg x lesser pastel clutch. If they had hgw they would be soul suckers. |
| AndyJ80 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 13:14:56
I'll keep you in mind if I need a kidney lol |
| carlb1981 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:39:29
Id gladly swap a kidney for a soulsucker though if anyone's interested? Lol |
| carlb1981 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:38:38
Maybe something to look for in the future then once i have my breeding plans up and going id have to sell a kidney for that money lol |
| Evolution Morphs |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:35:49
I think £2000 Someone's got some for sale on the dark side |
| carlb1981 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:32:42
Just watched the link so from what Kevin is saying these snakes are what you need to breed with the hg woma to get soulsuckers now how much are hg womas lol |
| carlb1981 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:30:31
Think I'll wait and see what's at donny 1st would hate to use the money for deposit then see some snakes off my list at donny for a bargain also cpr has another snake i have my eye on |
| Evolution Morphs |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 11:18:43
yep your right
ive gotta sell some blasts and get some funds
what you going to do
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| carlb1981 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 11:06:08
Just click next on the link for female bottom right i think |
| Evolution Morphs |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 10:59:59
really hmmmm
now its very tempting
males will see quicker return you see |
| carlb1981 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 10:55:56
They have a male too for 795 |
| Evolution Morphs |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 10:49:27
there will be shed loads of royals at Doncaster
all depends what your breeding plans are really
i love lessers
if it was male id have prob jumped on it |
| carlb1981 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 10:18:18
Very tempted to use my doncaster money to pay a deposit |
