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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04/05/2009 : 22:32:55
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I have noticed today there are some posts on the dark side about Royals being rescued with burns and being kept at horrendously high temps...
Why does this keep happening, it makes me very angry and also very sad that these animals are suffering..
It is easy to blame pet shops, but i just dont understand it...
I new nothing about keeping snakes when i got Peanut, but i came online and just read and read and educated myself and of course was lucky to find the dark side which led me here...
I cant believe people can sit back and let an animal suffer like that..
How many snakes die even at the hands of people who think its ok?
It makes me so bloody angry...
sorry i am having a rant............ |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2009 : 22:34:12
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Dazzetski
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/05/2009 : 22:35:28
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
I have noticed today there are some posts on the dark side about Royals being rescued with burns and being kept at horrendously high temps...
Why does this keep happening, it makes me very angry and also very sad that these animals are suffering..
It is easy to blame pet shops, but i just dont understand it...
I new nothing about keeping snakes when i got Peanut, but i came online and just read and read and educated myself and of course was lucky to find the dark side which led me here...
I cant believe people can sit back and let an animal suffer like that..
How many snakes die even at the hands of people who think its ok?
It makes me so bloody angry...
sorry i am having a rant............
Lack of thought & understanding me thinks  |
 
0.2.0 Cats (Spud & Phoebe) RIP Stevie fat man
1.1.0 Royals (Syd & Sofia)
2.2.3 Corns (Hogan, Shaggy, Sparkle, Tango, Fred, Haribo & Go Faster)
0.0.1 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Escobar)
1.1.0 Variable King Snakes (Lancelot & Guinaverre)
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2009 : 22:39:17
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Originally posted by matty18714
Its a horrible thing, but its easy to see how it happens.
i know what your saying Matty, but ignorance is not an excuse for neglect...
Cat is a perfect example, she saw something wrong and came for help...now look at her, Ra is a wonderful example of a turn around...
I'm sorry i find it painful reading of these things... |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/05/2009 : 22:54:40
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The main culprits (in my opinion) are Pet Shops.
Buying from a Pet Shop you'd expect their advice to be good, however, most do not recommend thermostats or bulb guards etc. So why would anyone look for other advice when they have the 'expert' pet shop advice. |
 
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 07:57:39
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Originally posted by Blackecho
The main culprits (in my opinion) are Pet Shops.
Buying from a Pet Shop you'd expect their advice to be good, however, most do not recommend thermostats or bulb guards etc. So why would anyone look for other advice when they have the 'expert' pet shop advice.
Big thumbs up to Emsworth Aquaria and Reptiles in Portsmouth then. Bog standard kit came with lamp guard and I was told that "I needed a 'stat so which did I want to buy". Paul, the guy that looks after the royals, was lurking in the background the whole time listening to the conversation and Lisa, the lady that was selling the kit and Sherman to me, waited for the nod from him before she made the sale. I get the distinct feeling that if Paul wasn't happy about anything that was said he would have refused the sale.
It's nice to know that there are some good stores out there but there are some bad ones out there giving some pretty dodgy advice. Unfortunately most new owners take what the shop says as gospel. |
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Dazzetski
Yearling
United Kingdom
461 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 08:32:14
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| I originally went to Burley Dam in Great Sutton, bought what I was told was all the right stuff, went to pick Sofia up, had Dave @ Contact Pets in Chester go over what I'd bought & ended up taking most of it back!!! I lucked out with Contact Pets, who knows what could have happened if I'd stuck with Burley Dam. |
0.2.0 Cats (Spud & Phoebe) RIP Stevie fat man
1.1.0 Royals (Syd & Sofia)
2.2.3 Corns (Hogan, Shaggy, Sparkle, Tango, Fred, Haribo & Go Faster)
0.0.1 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Escobar)
1.1.0 Variable King Snakes (Lancelot & Guinaverre)
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 08:47:08
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Originally posted by Blackecho
The main culprits (in my opinion) are Pet Shops.
Buying from a Pet Shop you'd expect their advice to be good, however, most do not recommend thermostats or bulb guards etc. So why would anyone look for other advice when they have the 'expert' pet shop advice.
I agree...
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 11:08:03
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Originally posted by dazb
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Originally posted by Blackecho
The main culprits (in my opinion) are Pet Shops.
Buying from a Pet Shop you'd expect their advice to be good, however, most do not recommend thermostats or bulb guards etc. So why would anyone look for other advice when they have the 'expert' pet shop advice.
I agree...
pet shop peed me off this morning with..
"you dont need a stat" not to me to someone else, who i promptly told them if the dont use the correct stat the animals environment will be dangerous..
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it cost me £14 for five small rats cos they had no weaners and four large mice....i nearly fell over..lol..
need to find a better supplier me thinks.. |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 16:46:43
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£14...jeeze.
I think i pay about 85p a weener...no idea on other prices. Would have though Rats would be about £1.10 and large mice about 80p |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 16:52:32
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ddm10
Yearling
United Kingdom
189 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 18:01:41
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You should never get any pet without the right knowlege and equipment, there's no excuse for not doing proper research and harming any pet out of your own negligence.
My weaners was £1.25 med mice are .90 but what really made me sick was a tiny pack of sphagnum moss about enough for just 1 hide £4.99. my local rep are rip off merchants and they make up loads of turd about the stuff you've got so you buy theirs. At least the had weaners this time but they're not that cheap |
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal
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Posted - 05/05/2009 : 19:07:20
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my personal fave this weekend was watermarque in yeovil, selling a bag of shredded newspapaer, i'd judge it to be about 1 newspaper per bag.... selling at £3.50.... even more annoying when i found out that they sell big bales (like, hay bale size) in mole valley farmers for only a couple of quid more. that and the thing, if you only need a small bags worth, why not just go and buy a paper and rip it up yourself?!?
i wont buy a rep. from a pet shop anymore, possibly a specialist rep shop if they were good.
and tbh, i cant take any credit for finally finding this site, if lee hadn't had the balls to email me.... well... i hate to think where ra would be now. |
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 19:35:30
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Originally posted by ddm10
You should never get any pet without the right knowlege and equipment, there's no excuse for not doing proper research and harming any pet out of your own negligence.
I know what you mean. I've been reading about/researching Boscs for the last few months. It still makes me sick to see all the ones up for rehoming because "they've got a bit big" or "too boisterous". Pi**es me off |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 22:03:05
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Originally posted by MissCat
my personal fave this weekend was watermarque in yeovil, selling a bag of shredded newspapaer, i'd judge it to be about 1 newspaper per bag.... selling at £3.50.... even more annoying when i found out that they sell big bales (like, hay bale size) in mole valley farmers for only a couple of quid more. that and the thing, if you only need a small bags worth, why not just go and buy a paper and rip it up yourself?!?
i wont buy a rep. from a pet shop anymore, possibly a specialist rep shop if they were good.
and tbh, i cant take any credit for finally finding this site, if lee hadn't had the balls to email me.... well... i hate to think where ra would be now.
Lee hasnt got any   |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2009 : 05:55:47
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
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Originally posted by MissCat
my personal fave this weekend was watermarque in yeovil, selling a bag of shredded newspapaer, i'd judge it to be about 1 newspaper per bag.... selling at £3.50.... even more annoying when i found out that they sell big bales (like, hay bale size) in mole valley farmers for only a couple of quid more. that and the thing, if you only need a small bags worth, why not just go and buy a paper and rip it up yourself?!?
i wont buy a rep. from a pet shop anymore, possibly a specialist rep shop if they were good.
and tbh, i cant take any credit for finally finding this site, if lee hadn't had the balls to email me.... well... i hate to think where ra would be now.
Lee hasnt got any
Yes we have but they're purely for decorative purposes now |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2009 : 06:32:52
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Originally posted by Paulusworm
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
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Originally posted by MissCat
my personal fave this weekend was watermarque in yeovil, selling a bag of shredded newspapaer, i'd judge it to be about 1 newspaper per bag.... selling at £3.50.... even more annoying when i found out that they sell big bales (like, hay bale size) in mole valley farmers for only a couple of quid more. that and the thing, if you only need a small bags worth, why not just go and buy a paper and rip it up yourself?!?
i wont buy a rep. from a pet shop anymore, possibly a specialist rep shop if they were good.
and tbh, i cant take any credit for finally finding this site, if lee hadn't had the balls to email me.... well... i hate to think where ra would be now.
Lee hasnt got any
Yes we have but they're purely for decorative purposes now
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"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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chris100575
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
743 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2009 : 08:57:01
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Originally posted by Paulusworm
I know what you mean. I've been reading about/researching Boscs for the last few months. It still makes me sick to see all the ones up for rehoming because "they've got a bit big" or "too boisterous". Pi**es me off
Woss a Bosc then? |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Princess
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2009 : 12:50:00
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| A Bosc Monitor, a large lizard. |
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chris100575
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
743 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2009 : 16:12:24
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| Thanks BE. I've just Googled them, they look interesting! |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Princess
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2009 : 17:10:20
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Originally posted by chris100575
Thanks BE. I've just Googled them, they look interesting!
Sorry Chris, I didn't see your post.
Like BE said they are a thumping great lizard when fully grown. Problem is that they look dead cute in the rep store and a lot of former owners (can't type what I'd like to but I think that's a more acceptable term) didn't think Bosc ownership through. Kinda like buying a Retic and then wondering where your cat has gone . I'm posting a monthly update on Godzilla under the 'Other Reptiles' section. Take a look from time to time |
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