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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09/12/2008 : 20:09:31
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hi guys,
i was wondering if a infra red bulb is considered as a light source and if it can be used with a pulse stat...
i know you cant use lamps with a pulse due to the light flashing, but since a infrared lamp doesnt give of any light is it counted as a lamp or not...
also with the constant on/off would its life span be shortened
any help would be great...
cheers
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Mulv
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
530 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 22:30:51
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Purely an educated guess but I would have thought the life span would be shortened, as
it is effectively just turning on and off.
With regards to it effecting the snake, I'm not sure. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 18:09:07
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Actual infra red heat lamps...
are ceramic and infra red the same??? |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 18:29:48
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| Some Ceramics are referred to as Infrared. If there is no actual light then you are ok with a PP Stat. |
 
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Mancunian
Hatchling
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 20:38:11
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I use an infra red bulb (75W) for heat for my Royal.
http://www.888reptiles.co.uk/productdetails.php?ProductID=1875&ProductGroupID=945
It works very well, keeping a constant warm end temp of 31C, but I use a dimmer stat. I don't think you should use pulse proportional stst with a light heat source. |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Python regius) CB07 Tibo (Normal)
0.1.1 Corn Snakes (Elaphe guttata) CB07 Jasper (Amelanastic) CB07 Chico (Anerythristic Aztec)
1.1.0 California Kingsnakes (Lampropeltis getula californiae) CB05 Luka (B&W Banded) CB06 Lucien (Albino Banded)
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 20:46:35
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Originally posted by Mancunian
I don't think you should use pulse proportional stst with a light heat source.
or your snake will have a permanent disco!
light on....... light off....... light on....... light off.......light on....... light off....... light on....... light off.......light on....... light off....... light on....... light off.......light on....... light off....... light on....... light off.......
(I'm sure you get the idea ) |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 21:01:57
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but infra red is invisible...
isnt it???? |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 21:36:34
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yes it is, Manc said about a light heat source that emits light AND heat  |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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I-M
Hatchling
United Kingdom
68 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2008 : 10:54:11
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Isn't the infrared light invisible to snakes, but visible to humans?
Mancunian, what size viv do you have? I have just bought a new one that is 36"x21"x18" and am trying to decide what to heat it with (ceramic or infrared), but thought I'd need a 100W lamp; from what you are saying, I'd probably be ok with 75W. |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/12/2008 : 16:29:59
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| Infrared is invisible to humans aswell |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2008 : 19:33:27
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| Details of the first one: 'Non light emitting heat source' |
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Mancunian
Hatchling
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2008 : 19:53:40
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quote:
Originally posted by I-M
Mancunian, what size viv do you have? I have just bought a new one that is 36"x21"x18" and am trying to decide what to heat it with (ceramic or infrared), but thought I'd need a 100W lamp; from what you are saying, I'd probably be ok with 75W.
My Royal is in a 3 foot viv and it is solely heated with a 75W infrared bulb on a dimmer stat. I keep a constant temp of 31C at the warm end with this. Even in this cold weather the bulb is kept relatively dim to maintain the temperature so I would say 75W is ample but if you used a 100W bulb it would just be kept at a dimmer level to maintain the same heat and vice versa if you used a 50W bulb. |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Python regius) CB07 Tibo (Normal)
0.1.1 Corn Snakes (Elaphe guttata) CB07 Jasper (Amelanastic) CB07 Chico (Anerythristic Aztec)
1.1.0 California Kingsnakes (Lampropeltis getula californiae) CB05 Luka (B&W Banded) CB06 Lucien (Albino Banded)
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2008 : 20:10:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Mancunian
My Royal is in a 3 foot viv and it is solely heated with a 75W infrared bulb on a dimmer stat. I keep a constant temp of 31C at the warm end with this. Even in this cold weather the bulb is kept relatively dim to maintain the temperature so I would say 75W is ample but if you used a 100W bulb it would just be kept at a dimmer level to maintain the same heat and vice versa if you used a 50W bulb.
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I-M
Hatchling
United Kingdom
68 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2008 : 22:16:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Mancunian
quote:
Originally posted by I-M
Mancunian, what size viv do you have? I have just bought a new one that is 36"x21"x18" and am trying to decide what to heat it with (ceramic or infrared), but thought I'd need a 100W lamp; from what you are saying, I'd probably be ok with 75W.
My Royal is in a 3 foot viv and it is solely heated with a 75W infrared bulb on a dimmer stat. I keep a constant temp of 31C at the warm end with this. Even in this cold weather the bulb is kept relatively dim to maintain the temperature so I would say 75W is ample but if you used a 100W bulb it would just be kept at a dimmer level to maintain the same heat and vice versa if you used a 50W bulb.
So your infrared lamp is one of those that emit a little bit of light and is not called ceramic? Do you still need to use a ceramic lamp holder with it? Does it get very hot, and does the actual guard get very hot? |
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Mancunian
Hatchling
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 15/12/2008 : 20:59:52
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So your infrared lamp is one of those that emit a little bit of light and is not called ceramic? Do you still need to use a ceramic lamp holder with it? Does it get very hot, and does the actual guard get very hot?
It is a IR bulb, not a ceramic. It is not in a ceramic bulb holder. The bulb get sas hot as I set the stat to (31C). The guard does not get very hot. |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Python regius) CB07 Tibo (Normal)
0.1.1 Corn Snakes (Elaphe guttata) CB07 Jasper (Amelanastic) CB07 Chico (Anerythristic Aztec)
1.1.0 California Kingsnakes (Lampropeltis getula californiae) CB05 Luka (B&W Banded) CB06 Lucien (Albino Banded)
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I-M
Hatchling
United Kingdom
68 Posts |
Posted - 15/12/2008 : 21:56:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Mancunian
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So your infrared lamp is one of those that emit a little bit of light and is not called ceramic? Do you still need to use a ceramic lamp holder with it? Does it get very hot, and does the actual guard get very hot?
It is a IR bulb, not a ceramic. It is not in a ceramic bulb holder. The bulb get sas hot as I set the stat to (31C). The guard does not get very hot.
Thanks! After all this, I have still decided to go for a ceramic, as it doesn't produce any light. This snake business is as much of a worry as bringing up babies was! |
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