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Lukewild
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 21/12/2008 : 19:13:01
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Hi there everyone, this is my first post. I have been reading up on royals for a while now. I have a corn and we have been very happy together for best part of 9 months now (love her to bits). I started witha corn because so many people said they are the best starter snake (I can see why they said that) but I could never take my eye off the royal python, I think they are so beautiful and sound like great snakes.
Everything I have read tells me that they really are no harder to keep than a corn and you keep them in a fairly similair enviroment (slightly more humid). Is this correct or have I missed something. A Royal would be more than happy in a 3ft by 2ft by 2ft, correct?
I read about problem feeders, how common a problem is this or do you just see it in forums alot because thats where people go when they need advise and its a general problem. say out of 10 Royal pythons how many would be problem feeders?
I know this is alot of questions but I am thinking its about time i got myself a royal and obviously want to make sure I know the necessary stuff
Cheers
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/12/2008 : 19:22:53
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Hi mate, you can't go wrong with a Royal, great snakes.
Whilst yes you do get problem feeders (they are a lot easier spooked than corns), the majority will be fine.
Royals (imo) like a little more heat and humidity than Corns and are less tolerant of handling.
3x2 is fine for a viv. |
 
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Lukewild
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
5 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2008 : 19:24:33
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| when you say less tolerant what do you mean? How often would you advise handling a royal |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/12/2008 : 19:30:06
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its not less tolerant in an agressive way, they are much more likly to try and get away (that being said they arnt particularly fast). The main affect of over handling would be that the royal decides its not feeling comfotable and seure enough to eat.
I recon handling 3-4 times a week for 15-30mins if fine for a royal. |
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Lukewild
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
5 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2008 : 19:41:08
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Oh right is see, well my corn was extremely reluctant to handle and very fast and good at getting away or grabbing something and not letting go.
I owuld not really handle my corn any more than you say for the royal
So they are now known to be a bitey snake then?
When you feed royals is it a must to feed via tongs or is it just a prefered thing for people? It is awesome wathcing the strike like that |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/12/2008 : 19:55:59
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You don't have to use tongs, but they haven't got the best sight - I suppose it depends how much you like you fingers  |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/12/2008 : 20:07:43
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I think my post came across the wrong way. They arnt very likly to bite, they are much more likly to try and escape (but they're not very fast anyway). I use tongs for my royal because like BE says, thier aim is crap and I like my fingers
Also if it bites you it will be more uncomfotable for the snake than you (providing your getting a youngster) |
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Lukewild
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/12/2008 : 21:53:07
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| Sorry I was the one not being clear. What i meant was do you have to force it to strike or can you just give it a defrosted mouse next to it, as you can with a corn (although they will strike from time to time). I have nothing against striking I just wondered if its a must? |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/12/2008 : 22:01:48
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Some of the more timid royals wont strike and will only feed when they are left alone with a mouse/rat. In which case they will sniff it out and then take it without striking.
Royals with better feeding responses (normaly the more confident ones) will eagerly strike if you hover a deforsted prey item infront of them.
Striking feeding is not a must, but its natural feeding behaviour. |
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Lukewild
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/12/2008 : 08:59:40
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| I know I am now asking about a different snake but why do people not do this with corns, mine will every now and then strike it and constrict but most of the time she just kind of snatches at it or somtimes really really slow. Could you use the same feeding practise with a Corn? |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/12/2008 : 09:43:39
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| Corns tend to learn the striking and constricting as they get older, whereas Royals seem to have it from the word go. |
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Mulv
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
530 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2008 : 18:41:54
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| My corn never constricts, he strikes but not as well as my royal, in the first initial feeds I was quite shocked at how well he took the stuart, so from my part my Royal feeds totally differently to my corn. |
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evekioul
Snake Mite
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 16:59:03
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| talking of bad eye sight the amount of times my royal has gone for the reflection of the rat when its right infront of his face is ridiclous lol |
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Mulv
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
530 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2009 : 11:46:58
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| Mine struck the other day, missed, and his head landed in his water bowl, think he was quite shocked! |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2009 : 19:38:24
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Originally posted by Blackecho
3x2 is fine for a viv.
for an adult, Royals really don't appreciate a lot of space and can get quite stressed if kept in a large enclosure. this stress is commonly shown as a reluctance or complete refusal to eat. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/01/2009 : 20:36:19
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I love to watch my Royal feed, when he strikes it is so fast if you blink you miss it...
If your going to get a young royal you dont need a big viv, i started off mine in a RUB ( Really Useful Box) but was having all kinds of probs with temps and humidity so now he is in a 2x1x1 and he is fine, it is still a bit big for him, but he is doing ok, he must be he has shed in there and fed regular.
They are lovely, and i would not swap mine for any other snake, he was my first snake and i am glad i got him. |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2009 : 22:32:03
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
They are lovely, and i would not swap mine for any other snake
lol, i'm the complete opposite of you wolfspirit, of all mine the royal is the first i'd get rid of!  |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2009 : 22:53:42
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| Its not Queenies fault you destoyed his self esteem by giving him a girls name |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/01/2009 : 11:27:10
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Well said matty... |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2009 : 20:20:14
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| but HE could be a SHE! what's wrong with 'Queenie', it's a GOOD unisex name??! |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/01/2009 : 12:56:09
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Queenie? Unisex? Are you sure?  |
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