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baldyman666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2008 :  11:30:59  Show Profile
hi everyone. i want to find out the weight of stardust, we have a set of plastic scales (crap but all i got)

any suggestions on the type to buy (not to dear) thts perfect for snakes ???

and what do you measure them in (grams/ounces/ pounds etc) (metric or imperial lol) (tell i was bad at cakemaking ?)


oh ...and i have started a feeding timetable as i have 2 now which tracks their feed habits - any other usefull info to monitor on their

so far the headings are -

date/time of feed/food size/amount of food/weight of snake/length of snake

STARDUST
DOB: 10 jul 08

lee2308
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2597 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2008 :  12:36:44  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
I also keep track of poo & pee

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2008 :  12:38:43  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Its common to weigh snakes in g, I bought my scales from ebay.



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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2008 :  12:40:17  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5KG-DIGITAL-POSTAGE-POSTAL-SCALES-KITCHEN-COOKING-NEW_W0QQitemZ110295760546QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Kitchen_Accessories?hash=item110295760546&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1296%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318



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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2008 :  13:54:26  Show Profile
I use cheap kitchen scales and weight them in g's also.

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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2008 :  15:22:59  Show Profile
i got my digital scales from sainsburys for about £10. make sure it weighs upto about 5kg. some only do less.

as for wot to monitor, there is lots of herp software out there that is free and gives you an idea wot you should record.

http://www.royallymorphedpythons.co.uk/resources.html

and

http://www.iansvivarium.com/free-downloads-f77.html



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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2008 :  22:09:38  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
got mine digi scales from Aldi or Lidl when they were on offer at about £7. I usually weigh the snakes in grams and aim to have a weigh-in every month or two. i put the snakes in a RUB balanced on top of the scales then either knock off the weight of the empty RUB, or zero the scales before adding the snake.

for records i also record the colour of the pray item offered and the snake's reaction ie. did it strike, was it a shy feeder and take ages, etc.

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Kazerella
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
1196 Posts

Posted - 27/12/2008 :  15:28:10  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage
I bought these from a charity shop for 50p. Not quite big enough for Royals though.



For the big snakes I use these fishing scales and a few cloth bags



I got those for about £2 from Doncaster Rep show.



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baldyman666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 27/12/2008 :  23:33:10  Show Profile
HI EVERYONE, SORRY FOR THE SLOW REPLYS xmas and all

gonna be a little quiet next week too (new year here we come)

right - wow everyone uses just about anything to weigh em! hahaha

DAZ - ok i have a pair of kitchen scales with 'G' so will weigh with that for now till i get the digital scales

LEE - poo and wee (or is that wii lol) is now on the list - nice one cos i forgot that - how do you list it ? amount /size/ colour or like a general description
i think im gonna have a 'notes' section too for any feeding snags too

KAZ - lol i didnt see the text by your fish scales pictures and thought the worst - my eyes nearly popped out (i have a vivid imagination) imagine the scene - little rod and hook in the viv - fishing for the snakey and hooking it to the scales lol (it was the picture on the box of that fish with the hook that did it)

seriously though, that looks like how people would do it in the trade - i bet its less stress on the snake too

STARDUST
DOB: 10 jul 08


Edited by - baldyman666 on 27/12/2008 23:35:37
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Kazerella
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
1196 Posts

Posted - 28/12/2008 :  10:25:20  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage
I think so too, the big snakes stay still in the bag because it's dark. The little 'uns are always trying to get out of the bowl on the scales. You've got to read the weight quick before they do a runner.



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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2597 Posts

Posted - 28/12/2008 :  14:20:19  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by baldyman666



LEE - poo and wee (or is that wii lol) is now on the list - nice one cos i forgot that - how do you list it ? amount /size/ colour or like a general description i think im gonna have a 'notes' section too for any feeding snags too


thats what i do,a little comment if somethings not right and note the rough size of poo and urate ball's

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baldyman666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  16:31:17  Show Profile
ok - weighed her - only have some analogue scales at the moment - not good enough but will buy some more accurate digitals (up to 5k thanx guys)

she is 22" long and weighs 125g (ish) (1 day b4 feed) (it wasn't amazing accuracy lol)

does this sound about right for a python born on 10th july 08????

thanx everyone :)

STARDUST
DOB: 10 jul 08

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  16:58:55  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Its on the light side, but nothing to worry about



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baldyman666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  17:35:54  Show Profile
PHEW thanx BE - now how do i get her weight up , she will only feed on 1 XL mouse (the biggest she can eat anyways haha) should i try to feed her maybe every 4 days ????

STARDUST
DOB: 10 jul 08

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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  17:46:36  Show Profile
i think 4 days is a little too often. I wouldnt feed any more frequent than 5 days.

As long as she is eating dont worry. A steady growth is better than a rapid one in my opinion. maybe try switching her to weener rats. they have a higher fat content.





Edited by - dazb on 04/01/2009 17:47:17
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baldyman666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  18:15:42  Show Profile
thanx daz - will look at weener rats , but like you said , she is eating well at the mo so maybe the weight will come , i will monitor closely

STARDUST
DOB: 10 jul 08

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  18:18:13  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
I agree with Daz, I usually stick to every 5 days or so when they are small and if you can get them onto Rats they will grow even quicker. Rat Fluffs or very small weaners at that size.



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baldyman666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2009 :  11:54:50  Show Profile
im off to get some rolands today and will let you know how we get on with the feed

STARDUST
DOB: 10 jul 08

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2009 :  14:03:08  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Good luck.



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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2009 :  19:27:07  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
Totally agree about getting it on the Rolands but I always keep some Stuarts in for when he's being a pain. Like now ! Seems to work though. Wave a mouse around the viv and he's like a fat bloke going after a packet of biscuits .

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baldyman666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  12:19:11  Show Profile
omg - weaner rat was huge - so i bought 2 only - and an xl mouse just in case she wouldnt feed on the roland or it was too big - within 30 seconds of offering - she struck and ate it - so that will be stardust on rolads then :) .......thanx guys n gals

STARDUST
DOB: 10 jul 08

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