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nutzyjazz
Snake Mite
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 Posted - 27/01/2009 : 21:12:48
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ive already got a corn and im thinkin of gettin a python soon
anyone wanna give m some advice?
anything? |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 21:19:21
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um.....
Get a CB royal
Sometimes they can be fussy feeders
They like smaller spaces compared to their body size compared to corns (if that makes sense)
If its eating mice you want to get it onto rats asap
Read the caresheet on this site.
The humidity effects them more compared to corns.
Theres more but I cant think of it all at the moment |
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blundey
Hatchling
86 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 22:47:09
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| Why get cb? I have cf and many other people do and there are no ill side effects. Most cf that come into the country are treated for parasites before they are sold on anyway, if that was your concern? I think if you have a ganders around now at cf, you will see alots changed in recent years. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 23:14:08
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| You run more risks of diseases and feeding issues with CF, but generally there is little difference. |
 
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 23:23:28
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Man, I'm not learning Brit-speak fast enough. What's a CF? Or an AT CF?
I only know:
CB - Captive Bred
CBB - Captive Born and Bred
CH - Captive Hatched
WC - Wild Caught
At least that's what they use here in the US...
We get reports here in the US that most CH and WC are more difficult to care for relative to the CB's. They are a lot more likely to be finicky with their food, especially WC's. And they are also more head-shy and nervous.
I wouldn't really know from personal experience. I only own CB's. |
        
Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
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Mulv
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
530 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 05:39:18
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I think your CH is CF (Captive Farmed) ... but I have no idea where you got AT CF from lol.
My CF has had shedding issues, feeding issues, and an RI in the few months I've owned him, not saying that him being a CF caused that, but hes fine now anyway (touch-wood).
If you can go CB, even if its a few extra pennies, then go CB. Less risk, especially if both are on offer.
CFs all SHOULD have been treated for parasites and checked over, but do you wanna take the risk?
Just my two cents.
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/01/2009 : 06:46:42
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Originally posted by Mulv
I think your CH is CF (Captive Farmed) ... but I have no idea where you got AT CF from lol.
Agreed. |
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blundey
Hatchling
86 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 08:30:05
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I know a breeder who has all captive farmed from ghana. Each snake that he recieves are treated for parasites on arrival. From that point on they have all shed and eaten no problems all bar one.
I PERSONALLY doubt very much that cb or cf have any REAL genetic differences when it comes to shedding and eating.
Also I was also told that all cb are from a cf prior anyway. As a horrid example, i could have my cf, not get it treated for parasites, then mate it with another cf or cb and have cb babys....all of which have the same "traits" as the cf along with parasites... Im hypothesising here...
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD RESOURCE ABOUT CAPTIVE FARMING IN GHANA WITH ROYALS. http://www.faunaimportuk.com/caresheets/royal_python.htm |
Edited by - blundey on 28/01/2009 08:41:52 |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 11:31:06
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There is no genetic difference, it just depends on the farm and how its run as to whether they have been over-stressed, properly fed, not been bothered by the transport etc etc.
There are so many CB UK Royals available there is no real reason to support the farming and taking from the wild unless you are a serious breeder looking to put new bloodlines into your stock. |
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blundey
Hatchling
86 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 11:34:14
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| Thats all good BE, i think my main gripe was the fact that someone said his only option should be cb. I dont see an issue with some CF. Just my 2p |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 14:51:44
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Then we agree  |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 16:17:57
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Originally posted by blundey
Thats all good BE, i think my main gripe was the fact that someone said his only option should be cb. I dont see an issue with some CF. Just my 2p
I meant nothing by it, just that a CB animal is going to do well in captivity and a CF has a greater (but still small) chance of not taking to it (for the reasons BE has said about the farms).
And of course there is no genetic differance between CF and CB because all CB's were produced from CF and WC. |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 16:25:27
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both my girls are CF the reasons for this was...
my 08 it was down to the time of year i got her. the shop only had CF babies in.
the 06 was for sale in the shop afew months ago and i liked her. (i think she is CF anyway)
A royal being CF does not bother me as both mine seem to be doing well.
I also see it as a positive as i will be breeding and it put some fresh new blood out there(i think)... |
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nutzyjazz
Snake Mite
8 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2009 : 16:30:57
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thanks for the replys . . .
why rats?
whats the difference between mice and rats to a snake? |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2009 : 16:53:21
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| when a python is fully grown mice just arnt a big enough meal. so instead of multiple mice just feed 1 rat... |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2009 : 19:34:51
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quote:
Originally posted by dazb
when a python is fully grown mice just arnt a big enough meal. so instead of multiple mice just feed 1 rat...
feeding 4-6 mice would be a similar meal to feeding a rat. feeding that many prey items is more costly, time consuming, not as natural and not as good for the snake's digestive system. |
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