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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09/02/2009 : 21:49:38
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This is really off topic, but i think a lot..lol...and was thinking today, that in London we have colonies of parakeets living wild, colonies of goldfish in the Thames, a spider similar to a black widow living here now. Goodness knows what else is out there.
What about snakes? could foreign species released into the wild survive? I mean look at where some rattle snakes live in the US, and it gets colder in there winters than ours, so why could they or others not colonise here to?
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/02/2009 : 21:54:49
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| Im sure some species could, but the ones from hotter areas in the world could'nt without man made things helping them I guess. An example are hot water pipes that could supply heat for them. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/02/2009 : 21:56:14
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| I believe that there are corns living wild. |
 
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/02/2009 : 21:57:35
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| I recon there are some living wild, but I dont think they breed (maybe a few find correct conditions?) |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/02/2009 : 11:22:52
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why could they not breed? animals are far better at adapting than we are, I agree with the ones like the big boas and stuff that need warmer climate, but ours is getting warmer.
I wonder if they did breed what the effect would be on our native snakes... |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/02/2009 : 16:35:56
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| I mean they they could breed, but I didnt think the eggs would make it. Maybe they would though? I might have to go on a googling mission. |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
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Posted - 10/02/2009 : 18:03:17
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This is a big problem in Florida. That's why, in Florida, you can't own a snake that can potentially grow over 8 feet without a permit. And to get a permit, you have to go through classes and an inspection of your enclosure BEFORE you buy the snake.
They found several burms and retics living in the Everglades. Last year, they recovered over 80 of them. The question is not whether they compete with other snake species, the problem is the snake giants feeding on local wildlife, some of which are protected species, and upsetting the local fauna balance that is keeping the alligators from going extinct. Of course, South Florida has the weather to support burms and retics. They breed in the everglades just fine. London though, you probably won't find those surviving for long. But there are other species of pet snakes like hognoses that can adapt to London weather. They brumate in the winter as well and that period of brumation makes the hognose prime for breeding. So, yeah, a few hognoses loose will probably start a family of wild non-native snakes there.
I do know that in Guam, a few foreign snakes got in the island from the shipping docks which killed all the native birds. So, yeah, it can be quite a problem.
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karl
Fully Grown Royal
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Posted - 15/02/2009 : 16:05:07
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| can't see why not, they would just find somewhere warm (ish) for the winter to curl up. Most things can populate the sewars ;) |
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
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Posted - 15/02/2009 : 17:04:11
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It's already happening with invertebrate species quite a lot. The false widow that somebody mentioned earlier was accidentally introduced in the 1800s and, with vertebrates, the wallaby is now a naturalised british species. With summer being warm enough and compost bins becoming more commonplace now, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we find something like the hoggy or corn becoming naturalised too.
We might find that we suddenly have potential careers with the RSPCA dealing with them  . |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/02/2009 : 20:00:56
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| Interesting subject really. I know next to nothing about native snakes, how much competition can the natives provide against foreign species? I'm mainly thinking about competition over food. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/02/2009 : 20:19:20
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| More interestingly, could corns mate with native species or even worse eat them? our snakes are in decline anyway for various reasons, it would be so sad if they were wiped out due to smething like this. |
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