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matty18714
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Posted - 16/02/2009 :  21:18:48  Show Profile
I've seen your thread on RFUK. Maybe borrow a 150 wat bulb and see if it suits the viv size?

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dazb
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Posted - 17/02/2009 :  16:23:25  Show Profile
the wattage shouldnt make a difference... the stat stops it from running at full power.

after it has reached desired temp it should only run at a fraction of wot it is rated at.

gonna put a heat reflector around it to channel more heat down and mount the fitting on another piece of 18mm board should sort it out...

will get there in the end...



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reptiles-ink
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  17:54:04  Show Profile
Where abouts is the stat probe in relation to the ceramic?
If it's too far away then the ceramic will be fully on for some time untill it warms up where the probe is.
A pulse stat would be best but you may already be using one?
With a pulse once it get to temp then it will reduce the heating so the other viv shouldnt be as warm from heat transfer.

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dazb
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  19:20:58  Show Profile
im running it on a pulse stat and i have got the probe under the heater on the back wall about 2-3 inch off the floor...

so annoying. thought it would be a simple setup and go...

i even took the guard off to see if it was not getting enough air circulation, but only took it down to 36*C on upper viv floor...



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matty18714
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  19:27:08  Show Profile
Is there anyway you can alter the stack? Im trying to find a pic of it now.

Edit - cant find any, have you put any up?


Edited by - matty18714 on 18/02/2009 19:43:30
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  19:32:54  Show Profile
In my three foot viv i am using a pearlco 100w now the roof is hot, as in like yours was, temps hit 41 above the viv, but i have my stat directly under the ceramic and it is registering 91.2 hot end and 88 cool end

Have you tried it with another stat?



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  19:35:42  Show Profile
just a thought probably wont make much difference, but how many vents do you have in your viv, in my 36x24x24 i have three vents, maybe if you only have two small ones you might be better with another couple of vents..



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dazb
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  19:47:10  Show Profile
just gonna put some up. 2 mins...



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dazb
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  20:10:36  Show Profile
well this is the set up...looks bigger than it is.

probe comes through where the hole is and clips into the grey clip...


cant get it to go the other way...sorry




Edited by - dazb on 18/02/2009 20:11:52
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matty18714
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  20:26:07  Show Profile
What about an angled fitting on the left side?

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Lewy
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  20:27:11  Show Profile  Visit Lewy's Homepage
Like Dave (reptiles-ink) says try moving the probe closer...we had the same problem when we first ran evra's Ceramic on the pulse stat (without her in of course) - The temps overall we're to high.

We moved the probe up closer to the ceramic and now everything is spot on... temps haven't fluctuated either and it doesn't get as hot on the top.

Here's a pic of where we have our probe (think you may have commented on it before... now you know the reason why )


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dazb
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  20:27:46  Show Profile
if you can find me an angled ceramic fitting i will...

yeah lewy i did ask why you had it there

if i put the stat prob up higher would it make a difference, reason i ask is im setting the temp off a independent digital thermometer. i can get the temps in the viv. and in the hides wot i want. its just the above viv that is the problem...floor gets too hot.

very close to getting my persueder out and adjusting everything manualy...





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Lewy
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  20:56:08  Show Profile  Visit Lewy's Homepage
If the temps are right below then maybe try insulating the top viv floor to reflect the heat back down - Maybe some of that fire proof stuff they box radiator pipes up with like asbestos but the modern non-toxic stuff - or mdf does the same kind of thing I think - then normal waterproof chipboard over the top... might work?

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dazb
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  21:04:16  Show Profile
getting some thermal reflector stuff of a mate who fits firesplaces to make some kind of reflector to fit inside the guard (hopefully) and then gonna mount it on another block of wood to see if that helps.
if still having problems gonna buy some 10mm polystyrene sheets/tiles and some thin ply and insulate the floor of the upper viv...

i will get there in the end...



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  21:07:13  Show Profile
not hijacking this Daz, is mine in the right place on the floor under the ceramic? should i be checking the air temps in the middle of the viv?

How high is your viv Daz? mine is 24 inches so maybe why my temps are better as it is taller and has more depth....



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matty18714
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  22:39:13  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

if you can find me an angled ceramic fitting i will...


I have seen some but I cant remember where.

Is the black park on this metal? http://www.888reptiles.co.uk/productdetails.php?ProductID=2979&ProductGroupID=1440

Bend it if it is

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Mulv
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Posted - 19/02/2009 :  08:55:46  Show Profile
Check the heat shields out on this page, might be worth a go Daz?

http://www.customguards.co.uk/custom_guards.html
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reptiles-ink
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Posted - 19/02/2009 :  09:22:53  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Mulv

Check the heat shields out on this page, might be worth a go Daz?

http://www.customguards.co.uk/custom_guards.html



Why? I sell them cheaper lol

Plenty of Retics and Burms
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Gingerpony
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Posted - 19/02/2009 :  11:03:53  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
dazb - if you get yourself to the rep night sunday after next you could pick them up from reptiles-ink and save on the postage

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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dazb
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Posted - 19/02/2009 :  16:43:34  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by reptiles-ink

quote:
Originally posted by Mulv

Check the heat shields out on this page, might be worth a go Daz?

http://www.customguards.co.uk/custom_guards.html



Why? I sell them cheaper lol



hi there reptiles-ink,

Have you got any pics of your heat shield mate. def interested if i can get them to fit my set up...

cheers



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