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dazza
Yearling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02/04/2009 : 20:16:32
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| when my royal goes into her next shed ive read and will adopt the moist moss hide method, but is that only needed when she is shedding or can you have a moist hide with the moss in it all year round? |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 20:27:11
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| You can have it all year round if you wish. I only choose to use one when in shed, but I mist 1-2 a week. |
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dazza
Yearling
United Kingdom
122 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 20:32:06
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| she has 2 hides, one warm side and one cold side, in the cool side i got her a rock formation thingy which she absolutely loves so thinking maybe ill use that hide and just use the moist moss when her eyes turn cloudy |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 21:18:57
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Hi Dazza, i keep a moss box in my viv all the time, this gives Peanut the choice if he wants damp then he gets it..
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"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 06:40:22
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| I have one in permanently in my Royal vivs. |
 
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 08:46:15
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I dont use one at all...
I have large water bowls which keep the humidity around 50-60% then when they go into shed i move the water bowl nearer the heatsource to increase the humidity some more to aid shedding... |
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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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dazza
Yearling
United Kingdom
122 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 09:38:54
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| lol i was gonna ask that but lee beat me too it |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 10:29:22
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| i change my moss around every three to four weeks. I keep it moist so yes wet when neccessary, but i also put a little drop of F10 in the water i use for wetting the moss, spray it underneath and hope the F10 keeps any bacteria away... |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 15:54:48
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I use sphagnum moss for my orchid collection. I don't use it in the snake's viv all the time - just when I need to raise humidity.
Sphagnum moss is almost a "must have" for orchid growers, so I've gotten very familiar with it.
Okay, there are different kinds of sphagnum moss - there's the sphagnum peat moss (dead moss harvested from the bottom of the sphagnum bog used as a soil additive for better aeration) and there's sphagnum moss which is used to line orchid pots. Sphagnum moss can come Live or Dried.
Sphagnum peat moss is a fungus inhibitor, so you can use this as a substrate if you need higher humidity level than what your regular room humidity is. You clean this out just like you would aspen and such. It is a bit messier than aspen though. Probably even messier than cypress.
You probably don't want to use live sphagnum in the viv because it will just die anyway from the heat - sphagnum likes temperatures under 75F. So, that leaves us with the dry sphagnum.
Dried sphagnum still retains its fungus inhibiting properties. There are cases where packaged moss is contaminated by fungi and it overpowers the moss. This is rare though. Dried sphagnum moss can come in different qualities. Sphagnum from New Zealand, Canada, or Australia have longer strands and are usually thicker. These can last 18 months of getting re-wetted without breaking down. Sphagnum from China or Taiwan have shorter, thinner strands and breaks down much faster - about 6 months. The thinner sphagnum are much cheaper compared to the thick sphagnum. Since I re-pot the orchids every 6 months, I just go with the cheaper version and that's what I use for the snake's viv as well.
Now, I have to say that I clean out the snake's viv once a month, so, at that time, I just go ahead and toss the moss out with the substrate as well.
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Edited by - anatess on 03/04/2009 15:57:30 |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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ddm10
Yearling
United Kingdom
189 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2009 : 14:51:30
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| where can you get it from? My local garden centre doesn't sell it |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2009 : 15:16:14
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rep shops sell it but its not cheap...
strange your garden centre doesnt have it. try homebase or similar. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2009 : 17:34:04
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| Most big garden centres have it as people use it for hanging baskets. |
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dazza
Yearling
United Kingdom
122 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 18:51:52
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| so when i buy the moss, after wetting it, do i just lay it flat for her to lie on top off, or do i make like a hole in the moss for her to bury herself in it? lol silly question i know but wanna get it right for her |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 18:57:54
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| i just lay it flat for my leos... i would have thought that they would have laid on top of it the same... |
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dazza
Yearling
United Kingdom
122 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 19:11:04
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| cheers daz, like i said sounds a silly question but in the wild they live in burrows and the like so wasnt 100% sure wether to lay it flat or have it in a small heap so they could burrow |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 19:34:19
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| some people use vermiculite(sp)instead of spagnum moss and that is laid flat. as i said i dont really use it for my snakes... |
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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2009 : 06:47:05
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| yes that is the one Lee... |
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