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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 19:33:29
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Hi everyone i need some advice.
Im building a 10 box rack for my royals but im really not sure about heating. The rack is going to be 160cm x 86cm with 10 compartments and a cupboard at the bottom. Melamine sides,top/bottom & shelves.
But how do i heat it all? I no ill need mats but do i need 1 for each box or can i run 2 strips top to bottom on 2 stats?.
Im really confused about all this if im onist. |
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 19:45:49
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Could i use say 7mtrs of heat cable?I ive worked out at 7mtrs each box would have the cable run past it 3 times.
Would that be enough?? |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 19:56:23
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The heat cable would be more than enough most racks I've seen only have it run twice under each rub |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly 0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi 1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie 0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby 1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian 1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal 1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa 0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly 1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam 0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate 1.4.0 Dune Geckos 0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie 0.3.7 Tarantulas 0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:01:33
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I was thinking of running it down the back of the rub! or does it have to be under them?
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:12:09
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I'd say 7 meters won't be enought Unless you buy soil heat cable As the reptile ones have 2.5 meters of cable then 4.5 of heat cable
I have 16 meters and that's just enought for my 11 tub vision v70 rack
I'd go for heat mats personally as you get to choose how many are on at a time rather than all or nothing And if space allows go 2x5 rubs so you will only have to but 5 mats if you choose that route |
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:18:46
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No offence but that lost me completely lol.
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:27:42
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I would say under them is better and as delboy said you'd have to take into account the amount of power cable before the heat cable starts. ill be using heat mats on mine for the reason del mentioned about the cable being all or nothing |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly 0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi 1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie 0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby 1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian 1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal 1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa 0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly 1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam 0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate 1.4.0 Dune Geckos 0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie 0.3.7 Tarantulas 0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:30:48
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Yer i get that but would that mean ill need 10matts and 10stats? |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:37:16
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No you can run multiple mats from one stat as long as the combined wattage of the mats don't exceed the stats max, id say two stats 5 mats on each would probably be fine but if you could change your design slightly so it wasn't as tall but wider to take 10 rubs on 5 shelves then you'd only need 5 mats (2 rubs on each) with one stat i posted my design on here in diy section if you look at that, im going to be using 7 mats and 2 stats for that and it will take 6 50ltr rubs on the 3 shelves side and 16 12ltr rubs on the other |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly 0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi 1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie 0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby 1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian 1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal 1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa 0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly 1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam 0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate 1.4.0 Dune Geckos 0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie 0.3.7 Tarantulas 0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:38:12
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http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10276 |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly 0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi 1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie 0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby 1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian 1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal 1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa 0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly 1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam 0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate 1.4.0 Dune Geckos 0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie 0.3.7 Tarantulas 0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:42:21
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Yes sorry it will be like that. 2 rubs side by side on 5shelves. I didnt explaine that very well. What size mats would i need? and is making the rack out of MDf a good or bad idear? |
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:53:15
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What's the depth of the shelves surrey pet supplies have got 30in x 6in and 30in x 11in heat mats they should stretch one side to the other with an inch either end which will be fine as your rubs won't be right against the sides anyway |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly 0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi 1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie 0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby 1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian 1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal 1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa 0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly 1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam 0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate 1.4.0 Dune Geckos 0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie 0.3.7 Tarantulas 0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:53:57
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im just going to post a pic on my design so far.
Rubs ive guessed at L60 x H25 x W40cm so 2ft x 1 1/2ft |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:58:19
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The 30x11 mats will do for that |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly 0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi 1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie 0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby 1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian 1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal 1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa 0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly 1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam 0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate 1.4.0 Dune Geckos 0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie 0.3.7 Tarantulas 0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 20:59:10
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 21:00:34
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Sorry its a quick drawing and sizes aren't exact but im sure you get the jist lol |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 21:11:35
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You could probably make do without the center partition which would need less heat mats, just out of curiosity have you priced materials for making that |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly 0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi 1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie 0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby 1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian 1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal 1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa 0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly 1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam 0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate 1.4.0 Dune Geckos 0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie 0.3.7 Tarantulas 0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Sw1fty84
Yearling
United Kingdom
100 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 21:26:26
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the centre partition will just be a piece of 2x1 to give support for the front of the shelfs. And With 12mm MDF ive got a rough cost of 85quid then the price or 10 rubs at 50quid and then 2 stats and 5matts at 120quid.
So a rough total cost of £255 |
Edited by - Sw1fty84 on 28/08/2012 21:27:08 |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 21:42:01
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Ok not a bad price, i was gonna suggest the ikea pax wardrobe conversion probably work out about the same price though |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly 0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi 1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie 0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby 1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian 1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal 1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa 0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly 1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam 0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate 1.4.0 Dune Geckos 0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie 0.3.7 Tarantulas 0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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