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matthewsaint
Yearling
United Kingdom
170 Posts |
 Posted - 23/10/2012 : 14:37:22
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| I posted a while ago about my female royal being very angry. I've now had her since March and she is still very aggressive. I've not been able hold her for long without her striking at me. I've tried holding her everyday, once a week and I've tried leaving her a few weeks etc. She has exactly the same setup that my male royal had at her size. She sheds and poos fine. She eats every 4 weeks or so but i offer every week. Any ideas or help would be much appreciated. |
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acd1984
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
687 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 14:47:56
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If she's not eating every 5~7 days at that age, it would suggest that she is unsettled. Some royals are more confident than others.
Can you post a pic of her rub and describe her heating setup and we will be better able to help thanks |
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
897 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 17:00:39
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| Also what size prey do you offer have you tried offering something smaller to try and get her eating everyweek and are you using a digital thermometer to measure the temps as they are the most accurate to see if temps are spot on |
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matthewsaint
Yearling
United Kingdom
170 Posts |
Posted - 24/10/2012 : 07:56:09
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| Yeah I'll get pics of rub tonight, she is in a 12l rub with two hides and a water bowl, she's on newspaper temps are 32-33c and cool end 23-24c. My other royal has always been fine this way and has only missed 2 meals in the last 11 months. I'm using a temp gun for measuring temps. |
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acd1984
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
687 Posts |
Posted - 24/10/2012 : 12:25:52
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| Have you got plants in there? If not, putting some in should make her feel more secure. Putting in some toilet roll tubes will give her extra hiding places too |
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matthewsaint
Yearling
United Kingdom
170 Posts |
Posted - 24/10/2012 : 14:43:12
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| No i haven't but i will get some. Food wise.I've tried a range of prey items i.e small and medium mice and rat fluffs and small weaners |
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acd1984
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
687 Posts |
Posted - 24/10/2012 : 16:49:46
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| What's her weight? |
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matthewsaint
Yearling
United Kingdom
170 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2012 : 21:06:04
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sorry for late reply I have just managed to find my usb cable for my phone to get picture uploaded. I've just weighed her she is 235g . She has not eaten since 24 September, not too long I know but at her age and size I'm worried. I tried to feed her a medium mouse on Sunday, she struck and constricted but did not eat. I've tried rat pups, fluffs v.small weaner.. small medium and large mice, and still to find something that she will eat properly. Should I take her to the vet?
This is her setup, she fits in the hides properly, temps are 33c and 24-25c she's on a heat mat with stat. Any advice please.
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matthewsaint
Yearling
United Kingdom
170 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2012 : 21:08:37
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| p.s. I have the two small bowls in usually but when in shed I put the pink bowl in to raise humidity. She's had 4 perfect sheds since March all in one piece. She's a beautiful snake I just hope there's nothing wrong with her :( |
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
897 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2012 : 22:24:50
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| Have u tried leaving prey in over night that sometimes works. Or could try braining and have you tried feeding at different times of the day never know she could be mega fussy and only eat in the mornings or late at night |
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matthewsaint
Yearling
United Kingdom
170 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 08:04:57
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I've tried through the day and on a night but never on a morning, I'll give that a try on Saturday.. Everytime I've tried to feed her I have left the rat/mouse in overnight, sometimes I'll find it in the waterbowl sometimes it's on the opposite side of the rub to where I left it. Which makes me think she may be trying to eat but is having some kind of problems?
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
897 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 09:23:49
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| Sometimes they just like pushing it around lol have u tried defrosting it near his rub so he can smell it might build an appertite up |
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matthewsaint
Yearling
United Kingdom
170 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 12:50:55
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| Yep tried that too. I will try feeding her on Saturday morning when i get up. Just worried that she's still so aggressive/nervous too |
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
897 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 12:56:13
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| Only other thing I can think of is take water bowls out on friday morning and leave them out then defrost the prey in luke warm water so its nice and wet warm its head in hot water then he might go for it if he is thirsty then put bowls back in after you try feeding |
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
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Lindstrom
Hatchling
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 19:50:51
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I would avoid thawing directly in water as it weakens the scent and can burst, try thawing dry in a SEALED take away tub and just before you feed, put hot but not boiling water in a sink and let the tub float in it for 3-5 minutes. This "sweats" the mouse and depending how strong the scent is I get varying feeding responses from instant strike to, is that a mouse? It is!, it is a mouse!
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
897 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 20:10:38
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| I defrost all my rodents in water lol and never had any burst plus if mouse aint wet the taking water bowl out trick is pointless lol |
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matthewsaint
Yearling
United Kingdom
170 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2012 : 22:44:24
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hodgie, thanks for that but I've already tried that with her too, if anything she is more aggressive when I try to do that :\
I'll give the water thing a go and see what happens.
My other royal has only missed a couple feeds in over a year, and has never struck at me once, weird how they have such different personalities isn't it.
thanks all for advice! |
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Lindstrom
Hatchling
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2012 : 19:15:10
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quote:
Originally posted by jbarlow91
I defrost all my rodents in water lol and never had any burst plus if mouse aint wet the taking water bowl out trick is pointless lol
I thought it was pretty obvious I was not talking about the "taking the water bowl out trick" the clue was "dry" sorry i just don't think they would think "oh no I haven't got any water I better drink of this dead mouse oh hang on I forgot I was hungry"  the reasons for not eating are, theyre simply not hungry, they don't recognise it as food, breeding season or they're stressed. My first port of call if they're not stressed or in breeding season would be change food supplier, change food source, increase the primary sence of food aka scent, reduce how often you offer food so they become more opurtunistic and then develop a routine |
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
897 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2012 : 20:02:21
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| I doubt a royal that small would stop eating cause of breeding season and if a snake aint eating its worth tryin all the tricks u can think of to try and get it back eating. And some of my snakes drink water off their prey even when they have water bowls in their tanks and then strike and eat |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2012 : 08:52:14
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quote:
Originally posted by jbarlow91
if a snake aint eating its worth tryin all the tricks u can think of to try and get it back eating.
I disagree, it's natural for royals to fast and the best thing to do is let him do that, offer food less often and just keep patient until either his health degrades or he starts eating again.
However that's just my opinion and nothing says I'm right and you're wrong. |
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Edited by - Kelfezond on 10/11/2012 08:52:41 |
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