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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2012 :  22:22:08  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
went back to one of my local rep shops today to try and have a look at the savu or sawu pythons and the bull and rat snakes they have in.
but upon asking the guy in shop if i could have a look at the savu's he searched the viv and could not find them then proceeded to phone staff members to see if they had sold them which they hadnt so its a bit of a mystery as to where they went(possibly stolen) was a bit dissapointed as was looking forward to seeing those in particular so moved on to the bull snakes but was told the nicest ones that i prefered were very aggressive and werent good if i wanted something to handle so again i was dissapointed as they were gorgeous so lastly i looked at the pair of yellow rat snakes which were about 4 year old and puppy dog tame and vey pretty indeed so i may have found occupants for one of my empty vivs at least im still very temped by the aggressive bulls as ive never seen them that colour before i will try find pics of the choices above and post them

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion

chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
3326 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2012 :  22:36:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bull snakes are great to own they get to a good size and rarely refuse a feed.
some can be very p***y but most if it is just bluff i have a pair that are just over 2 years old ivan the male is around the 6ft mark and a wimp dont think hes ever hissed at me but mavis the female is quite vocal an has tagged me twice both times while lifting her hide off so just a defencive tag once shed out an stopped hissing shes fine.
heres my 2
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11004

1.0.0 burmese python,giblet. 1.0.0 BCI, william. 0.1.0 blue tongue skink, 0.1.0 green iguana, jasmin, 1.0.0 cape house snake, 0.1.0 checkered garter snake

my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2012 :  22:59:01  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's one of the bulls i think they were albino there was three of them


and one of the yellow rat snakes


the other bulls were white sided and can't find pics of them on the Facebook page or the sawu

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
3326 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2012 :  23:04:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
im not a big fan of bull snake morphs to be honest that one looks nice an the rats snakes are cool.

i would love kingsville red bull snake if it were possible to get a pure one, not a morph but a texas local
http://www.spsnakes.com/pictures/mysnakes/rbull_kingsville_f_2yo_2.jpg

if you like the bulls have a look for pine and gopher snakes same family as the bull pituophis think thats spelt right, there are quite a lot of pine/gopher morphs.
bulls are the largest of the 3 followed by then gophers then pines

1.0.0 burmese python,giblet. 1.0.0 BCI, william. 0.1.0 blue tongue skink, 0.1.0 green iguana, jasmin, 1.0.0 cape house snake, 0.1.0 checkered garter snake

my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
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Edited by - chrisc on 18/11/2012 07:52:35
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herriotfan
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
812 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  08:46:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That bull is stunning!


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carlb1981
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United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  09:40:38  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes the 3 that are the same were all gorgeous im so tempted to get them or the white sided ones and take on the challenge of taming them

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 24/11/2012 :  13:29:03  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Called back to the rep shop to have another look at the snakes and to ask about paying a deposit to hold them until vivs are up and running so had to ask him about the albino bulls again as they are just gorgeous and he kindly showed me what he meant by them being aggressive by opening the viv to get one out to be met with a lovely albino bull attaching itself to his hand without so much of a warning lol. Now i have the dilemma of deciding what i want do i go with the trio of bitey bulls and leave them alone or get the pair of rat snakes? I now also have 2 more to think about as they just got a female albino pine snake that's pretty much exactly the same as the bulls but dog tame and an anery bull het white sided that is also dog tame both
juvenile. im going back with a deposit next weekend so have a week to think about it what you guys reckon?

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 24/11/2012 :  13:37:12  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Handled a nice bull snake on my training course at Wrigglies he was a sweetie ^^

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 24/11/2012 :  13:40:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would not have any snake that is outwardly aggressive from the start, not like a nippy hatchling at their age I doubt they will become tame. The Anery and Pine sound your best choice to me :)



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carlb1981
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United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 24/11/2012 :  14:53:09  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes im swaying towards those choices as the pine was near on identical to the bull

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
3326 Posts

Posted - 24/11/2012 :  17:48:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bulls, pines, and gophers are usually very vocal but most will tame with regular handling once they have settled in in a quiet home.

if it were me id pick the bulls but then i love feisty snakes, more fun an like you said its the challenge of taming them.

my female beauty snake who i was told is unlikely to tame down is acctually quite calm now so am going to attempt to free handle her once the mites are gone and yes i will get someone to video it

1.0.0 burmese python,giblet. 1.0.0 BCI, william. 0.1.0 blue tongue skink, 0.1.0 green iguana, jasmin, 1.0.0 cape house snake, 0.1.0 checkered garter snake

my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
incubate 2 campaign
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carlb1981
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United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 24/11/2012 :  17:54:23  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It was quite amusing when it just latched on to his hand then a couple came around the corner and the womans reaction was great lol

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2012 :  15:23:24  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well i paid a deposit on the albino pine today and will get her at the end of the month it was hard choosing between the amelanistic(not anery as i thought) het white sided bull and the pine as they were both gorgeous but that little extra redness and size swayed it for me so im looking forward to xmas being over so i can pick her up :-)

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
3326 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  10:17:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nice one look forward to seen some pics of her

1.0.0 burmese python,giblet. 1.0.0 BCI, william. 0.1.0 blue tongue skink, 0.1.0 green iguana, jasmin, 1.0.0 cape house snake, 0.1.0 checkered garter snake

my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
incubate 2 campaign
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