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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult

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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  09:41:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im very excited. Going to be getting my very first Hog next week, so im busy setting up its new home (just a faun for now). I would like to have a desert theme and wondering if its alright keeping them on sand. I know its not advised for other snakes, I wasnt sure whether it would get between their scales or not? fairly sure they live on sand in the wild?
Just think it would be cool being able to see all the trails in the sand where its been.

Thanks.


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chrisc
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  10:16:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
seems some people on the hognose forum use sand but other stuff i found via google says not to use it.
http://www.thehognosesnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=455

i personally would keep them on aspen as its good for them to burrow in, coco fiber could be an option but not sure

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jonnyc1988
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United Kingdom
908 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  11:35:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wouldnt they be able to burrow in sand?


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chrisc
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  11:36:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they can but aspen holds the burrows once dug out

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jonnyc1988
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  11:39:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the link, been having a read of all the opinions and to be honest I think I will save the bother and stick with the aspen. saves me buying 2 different types of substrate, and its not worth the risk if anything did happen. Just thought it would be cool to see all the snake trails in the sand.
Cheers for your help.


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chrisc
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  11:48:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i did glance through another thread where someone said they used aquarium sand as play sand can be too salty an you need to feed outside the enclosure all the time.

no problem i will have a look later an see if i can find any more info

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JanieW
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  12:06:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We keep Timmy on Megazorb, he loves to burrow in that. Its like tiny balls of paper, soft for little Hoggies

http://www.farmandpetplace.co.uk/products/equine/bedding/wood-pulp-pellets/megazorb-horse-bedding.html



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Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
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Edited by - JanieW on 02/12/2012 12:08:06
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jonnyc1988
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United Kingdom
908 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  12:07:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah i saw that too. Im sure I have seen sand substrate for sale at my local exotics shop.


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jonnyc1988
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United Kingdom
908 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  12:08:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just checked surrey pet supplies and there is a million different types of sand! so even more confused. Think I will just forget it. Surely there are plenty of sand dwelling snakes kept in captivity that would be fine on sand? Sand boas for example....


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JanieW
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  12:16:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shouldn'e even keep Bearded Dragons on sand..desert sand in their natural habitat packs down like concrete




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Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
908 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  12:37:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just gonna stick with aspen then. Use a fake cactus or something to at least make it look like the desert lol. I feel like the hognose's colours will look out of place in a jungle set up.


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0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
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JanieW
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  13:08:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do think Megazorb is great for Hoggies, and is the colour of sand (grey)I'll snap a pic a little later :



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Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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boomslang
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  13:16:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most of that stuff is sold as gecko sand etc.Long story short,it's more hassle then just aspen etc etc.

Plus if it's a baby you're getting,id say use paper towels for the first few months.

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chrisc
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  13:34:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
have read good stuff about megazorb but not used it myself.

off topic but beardies are fine on sand once 6+ months old an accurate feeders, i used to keep mine on play sand with a load of big bits of sandstone slate.

beardie substrate is one of those never ending discussions, personally i wouldnt use wood chip an a friend uses bark as its too big to be eaten and works well

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jimmer7
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
661 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  19:33:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi I keep my young hognose on ashen she loves it, I keep it shallow in the hot end getting deeper in the cool end, I also keep a small damp box in there aswel.my faun contains 2 hides 1damp box water bowl, bit of wood and a silk plant.

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JanieW
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  21:49:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was about to take a pi of Timmy's set up, but he's burrowed out of sight..so here he is underneath the Megazorb lol




Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Lotabob
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  22:56:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love Megazorb too, and I pack it down and it holds burrows too.


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JanieW
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Posted - 02/12/2012 :  23:37:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol Rob, yeppers its perfect for Hoggies..its full of holes where he burrows..must be 5 holes in already in a few hours.



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
908 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2012 :  06:19:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm, might give that megazorb stuff a try. I take it from the name its really absorbant, and easy for cleaning out?

Im getting really excited, should be getting it Saturday.


1.0.0 Pastel Royal Python - Juju CB11
0.1.0 Western Hognose - Hetti CB12
1.0.0 Fire Harlequin Crested Gecko - Jasper CB13
0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
1.3.0 Viper geckos
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JanieW
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/12/2012 :  07:08:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its dead easy Jonny, any wee clumps together looks like a pebble lol
You'll love your hoggie, Timmy was out roaming and now burrowed out of sight..real charactors



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
908 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2012 :  07:52:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, they always seem the most interesting in the shops. always out and about looking busy. Got so many great characteristics as well, turned up nose, hood, black tongue, then theres their "acting" skills lol, fake strikes, huffing and puffing, playing dead (not that I want to promote this behaviour, but it is cool to know).


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1.0.0 Fire Harlequin Crested Gecko - Jasper CB13
0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
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