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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/01/2013 :  21:01:52  Show Profile  Send Baobab an AOL message  Reply with Quote
So far, all of our snakes have had a wonderful temperament. When I was away for four weeks our carpet python Continued to be calm, however when I went to take him out tonight he was stressy and struck but missed. This disappointed me but made me wonder if they get used to their regular handler scents and forgot mine or was he just having an off day.
I will be taking note of his reactions after future trips away.
Has anybody else experienced poor reaction after just their absents, but continually good reaction to other regular handlers.
I'm pretty sure from previous discussions that a calm snake is calm with anybody and vise versa, once out and being handled, I am just curious about the initial exposure to being removed from their home by the first person.


Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.

Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 13/01/2013 :  21:46:17  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm not a big believer in snakes recognising or being familiar with keepers/handlers. They're mostly an instinctual animal IMO and use the senses they have to determine whether you're food, threat or mate, reacting accordingly (bite, bite or hump Lol)

I believe that regular handling helps with how a snake will react when approached, IMO recognising a keeper is purely an anthropomophic trait/behaviour

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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/01/2013 :  21:51:16  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd like to think they recognise me when I go to handle the
And pick them up
But who knows


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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 13/01/2013 :  21:57:25  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
*off topic*
The new banner looks ace Del!

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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/01/2013 :  22:03:49  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks fezza :)

Baobab keep us updated when you coming back each trip
And let us know if snakey was just having a bad day
I'm sure she lovely you anyway :)


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herriotfan
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
812 Posts

Posted - 13/01/2013 :  22:06:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I'm a great believer in the old sock trick and I think they do get to know a regular handler.
Next time you go away leave an old sock, that you've stuffed in your top for a day, in their hide and see if that helps. It can't do any harm.


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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/01/2013 :  22:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm pretty sure they do recognise their regular handlers, PIp the carpet hasn't struck out since we bought him. I took him out after the incident with Steve (Baobab) with no sign of mood at all.



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jbarlow91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/01/2013 :  07:26:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think they recognise people cause my female royal hates my girlfriend lol

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BlueDragon
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
876 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2013 :  08:58:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would say they reconize people as well. Tig never had a problem with me, but he hid down my bra or under my arm or in my coat when he knew his vet was wanting to see him. Anywhere he could fit. It was obvious that he knew who I was and knew who his vet was. He trusted me enough to assume I could keep him safe and hid away in my arms, and he obviously didn't like his vet.

I think at the least they learn who certain people are through smell or maybe how they handle them, the feel of it etc. And so maybe your four weeks away made you smell different to what you normaly would and it made him unsure of you?

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/01/2013 :  12:21:59  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't say they recognise handlers whenever I get guests to visit I always tell them to just dig in and grab what they like the look of - everything reacts the same to them as they would to me.

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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1393 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2013 :  15:40:44  Show Profile  Send Baobab an AOL message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kelfezond

I wouldn't say they recognise handlers whenever I get guests to visit I always tell them to just dig in and grab what they like the look of - everything reacts the same to them as they would to me.



That's always been my take on it. Just his unusual reaction triggered the thought. Something had him spooked, I always give them plenty of time to realise I'm there rather than just lunge in. I may have just had an unusual odour on me. Best not to over think a snakes reactive mind.


Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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richard v
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
563 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2013 :  16:26:46  Show Profile  Click to see richard v's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If any snake will recognise you it's going to be your retic very intelligent and inquisitive snakes
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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/01/2013 :  16:38:26  Show Profile  Send Baobab an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Id better stay on his good side then Richardv.


Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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IncurableFlirt
Yearling

USA
319 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2013 :  17:27:16  Show Profile  Send IncurableFlirt an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Most of my Royals act the same no matter who takes them out to hold them, my Corns too. However, I actually do think that both of my boas know my scent and feel at ease and comfortable with me. The reason I believe this is that I can take either one out for a handling session and they just settle right in and stay put upon me while they do a little exploring. Neither one of them likes to "leave the safety" of my arms and if I hand them off to someone else...they tense up. As soon as they realize that they aren't going to be harmed, they become wiggle worms and do their best to try and find me again. This always irritates my nephew's girlfriend who absolutely loves my big BCI. Whenever she holds him, she always tells me: "Go far away!" :D :D :D Otherwise he won't settle down on her and is constantly trying to get back over to me, lol.

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