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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
 Posted - 07/04/2013 : 22:31:05
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Hey all.
My royal is now on jumbo/x large mice and I've been trying to switch him to rats for a while now and he has only taken one so far! I have tried defrosting a rat and mouse together and rubbing the mouse over the rat. Any other suggestions would be good thanks!
Oh and when he refuses the rat I will give him a mouse the next day just so he has eaten, should I stop that so he's hungry enough to take a rat? |
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Foremand
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
968 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2013 : 23:00:30
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| Leave it in cool end over night? And let him take it In his own time? My royal refused a normal feed so I thought I'd leave it. Come back in morning to find it go e. worth a shot. |
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 04:04:19
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Couldn't you have switched before you got to the biggest mice?
Also keep trying the rats,without feeding a mouse the next day. |
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 07:15:43
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| When I got him he was already on large mice |
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Zoe
Yearling
187 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 08:00:11
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Mine is on large mice - are rats better for them?
Do they taste different?
Should I switch when he's finished his current supply? |
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1.1.0 dogs - Rafferty and Florence |
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 08:23:30
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| Well mice are only small so you will have to feed multiple mice as it gets larger unless you get them onto rats |
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herriotfan
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
812 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 09:22:25
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| Have you tried braining the mouse and then scenting the rat? Sounds horrible but the brain matter might work better than just rubbing the mouse over the rat. |
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 10:05:35
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| Ill give it a go! Do u just cut the head? Will a normal Stanley knives go through the skull easily? I never thought id be having this conversation ha! |
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PythonManDan
Yearling
United Kingdom
150 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 10:58:12
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| I've just used scissors to cut the head open in the past, Stanley knife is probably better though I bet |
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herriotfan
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
812 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 11:43:43
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| I just use a sharp knife if I have to do any braining. |
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red123
Hatchling
United Kingdom
60 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2013 : 20:14:52
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| We are in the same situation. Tony will not eat a rat and he is on large mice at the moment. Have tried defrosting rat and mouse together, washing the rat and rubbing the mouse over the rat, no luck. Tried rubbing mouse brain over the rat and still nothing. He has always been bit of a fussy feeder so don't want to push him to far. Every time we offer a rat he refuses food and misses a few weeks. Royals can be a right pain in the bum sometimes lol. |
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ShadEO9
Yearling
United Kingdom
126 Posts |
Posted - 21/04/2013 : 13:41:23
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Braining usually does the trick in the beginning stages...
I had to switch from mice to rats almost instantly as mice weren't filling Chief for very long at all, He was constantly on hunting mode lol |
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2013 : 13:42:48
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| still wont go onto rats! Im going to stop offering mice now in the hope that he will be hungry enough to take the rat! im going to try washing the rat then scenting it with a mouse. would a pinky mouse work? obviously if im only using it to scent the rat i want the cheapest mouse possible! |
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herriotfan
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
812 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2013 : 16:19:55
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Just a thought but buy some pinkies and put one in the rats mouth with a little bit sticking out. It might be just enough to tempt your royal. Ok, it means he's eating a pinkie too but that's not the end of the world and it might be enough, after a few times, to persuade him that rats are good!  |
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2013 : 16:57:34
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| Good idea!! I'll definately try that next time! |
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2013 : 08:21:50
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Originally posted by herriotfan
Just a thought but buy some pinkies and put one in the rats mouth with a little bit sticking out. It might be just enough to tempt your royal. Ok, it means he's eating a pinkie too but that's not the end of the world and it might be enough, after a few times, to persuade him that rats are good!
I'm NEVER trying that again! The pinky caught the rats tooth and squirted all down my top ! He didn't even take it after all that! Oh well have to try something else next week! |
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herriotfan
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
812 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2013 : 11:18:53
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quote:
Originally posted by phlegmatical
quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan
Just a thought but buy some pinkies and put one in the rats mouth with a little bit sticking out. It might be just enough to tempt your royal. Ok, it means he's eating a pinkie too but that's not the end of the world and it might be enough, after a few times, to persuade him that rats are good!
I'm NEVER trying that again! The pinky caught the rats tooth and squirted all down my top! He didn't even take it after all that! Oh well have to try something else next week!
Oooooops! That wasn't meant to happen
It seemed like such a good idea.  |
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1.2.0 Royal Pythons (Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Echo)
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0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
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??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2013 : 11:40:07
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| it would probably work with a bigger rat! |
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