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RoyalBram
Hatchling

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 15/07/2013 :  16:03:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Understood... Buying one today.

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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

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Posted - 15/07/2013 :  16:08:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As you have it now,the heatmat will be hotter then your thermometers are reading 4 inches above the mat.And any heat that does rise up.has to pass through that wooden hide too :P

So in other words,the mat can be at burning temps.while that thermometer is reading like 30c.It's not giving you a true reading.

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richard v
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Posted - 15/07/2013 :  16:13:34  Show Profile  Click to see richard v's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think roughly through several cm of substrate you will get a difference in temps of a few deg, so for example in my viv when i was using heat mats if I put the thermostat probe directly on the heat mat buried and covered it with aspen and set it to 32 deg, i would take a temp reading from where my snake was sat in his hide it would read 28-29 as it struggles to get to temp through the aspen.So as you can see I think personally its best to take the temp from the actual substrate at snake level. With kitchen towel as its so thin I really can't imagine there will be that much difference in temps above or below so as long ad its at the right temp that will be fine.
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RoyalBram
Hatchling

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83 Posts

Posted - 15/07/2013 :  16:48:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, apologies.

I have been changing it as I go long after suggestions. Lol

I now have the habistat probe on the heat mat and the white (inaccurate battery operated freestanding) thermometer on top of the kitchen roll and under the hide.

Its reading a temp of 33.7!

I will order one with a probe and put that at substrate/kitchen roll level and see where I am.

Apologies for being confusing!

Bram
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RoyalBram
Hatchling

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 15/07/2013 :  17:34:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, I think the penny has dropped!

I have ordered a probe thermometer. I will then cable tie it to the habistat probe and fasten them both to the back of the viv. I will place the habistat probe on the glass just above the mat and then the other probe in his hide.

This way I will know what he is getting at substrate level and can control it via the habistat probe.

I think that is the best way?!

Cheers,

Bram
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boomslang
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Posted - 15/07/2013 :  17:46:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds good.

I have afew of these
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lucky-Reptile-LTH-31-Thermometer-Deluxe/dp/B002CWR994/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1373906239&sr=8-3&keywords=dual+thermometer

Can get them cheaper else where.but has two probes in one unit.

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RoyalBram
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Posted - 15/07/2013 :  19:07:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They look good, wish I hadn't bought two crappy ones now! LOL.

Never mind!!
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boomslang
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Posted - 16/07/2013 :  01:19:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol :) well afew things you can reuse in another home,once he gets bigger.

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RoyalBram
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Posted - 16/07/2013 :  09:05:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bought the dual one suggested, couldn't find it cheaper! At least I can use the plastic terra and extras to set up a temporary home for him when I am cleaning etc...

Temp is holding at between 29 and 32 so pretty much bang on. Looking forward to getting him now.

Cheers buddy.

Bram
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richard v
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Posted - 16/07/2013 :  09:57:02  Show Profile  Click to see richard v's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi mate, maybe should of mentioned this yesterday and saved you some money these are the ones I use very accurate.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?index=0&sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=200918710098
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boomslang
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Posted - 16/07/2013 :  16:10:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More like a greenhouse/room thermometer,as it has no probes,So you have two of them inside your viv/rub just placed on the substrate?

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RoyalBram
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Posted - 16/07/2013 :  16:50:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi mate,

Already got the probe one, I may well get one of those ones you suggested for the cool end.

I have got Rebel home now and he loves his new pad...He's had a good noes and tongue around and has settled for laid across the back and up on top of the coconut in amongst the new leaves I bought!!

Love him.

Will post pics in appropriate topic/thread in a bit.

Bram
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RoyalBram
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/07/2013 :  17:31:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just a quick update and more info needed.

The viv is set up and running nicely (I think). Whenever I check the temps/humidity its running at between 28-31 degrees and 40-60% humidity, depending on the time of day. I am changing his water daily and he left me a nice present this morning so I have spot cleaned, although it did mean moving him out for a couple of mins.

He seems very happy and pretty active, he takes up all sorts of positions and at the moment is in his coconut hide. My question is this:

I have placed the small viv in my room where its pretty quiet, I was just wondering if they need dark all the time or is it okay to have a bit of sunlight on the viv?? Probably a silly question, but I figured it was okay as if they want some shade or dark there are areas where he can get some.

He seems pretty happy and I am just crossing my fingers hoping I have got it all right so he feeds tomorrow night on his rat pup!

I have read up on feeding and I won't be getting too stressed if he doesn't feed, but would just like everything to be right for him. Also, what type of tweezers or feeding implement is best to use??

As always, any help would be fantastic!!

Bram

Edited by - RoyalBram on 18/07/2013 17:33:07
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 18/07/2013 :  18:35:49  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RoyalBram

Just a quick update and more info needed.

The viv is set up and running nicely (I think). Whenever I check the temps/humidity its running at between 28-31 degrees and 40-60% humidity, depending on the time of day. I am changing his water daily and he left me a nice present this morning so I have spot cleaned, although it did mean moving him out for a couple of mins.

He seems very happy and pretty active, he takes up all sorts of positions and at the moment is in his coconut hide. My question is this:

I have placed the small viv in my room where its pretty quiet, I was just wondering if they need dark all the time or is it okay to have a bit of sunlight on the viv?? Probably a silly question, but I figured it was okay as if they want some shade or dark there are areas where he can get some.

He seems pretty happy and I am just crossing my fingers hoping I have got it all right so he feeds tomorrow night on his rat pup!

I have read up on feeding and I won't be getting too stressed if he doesn't feed, but would just like everything to be right for him. Also, what type of tweezers or feeding implement is best to use??

As always, any help would be fantastic!!

Bram



Aye bit of sunlight doesn't hurt them at all.

Any tweezers will do but preferably ones with blunt tips. I use barbeque tongs :)

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RoyalBram
Hatchling

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 18/07/2013 :  19:43:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Coolio... Cheers!

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