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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
 Posted - 06/08/2013 : 04:55:47
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116
At least they printed the police statement saying how rare snake attacks are.
Seems snakes arent the only ones getting bad press though. Owners of killer dogs will now be sentenced to life in prison. |
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Foremand
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
968 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 11:11:32
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That snake must of gas it set up from the beginning. The kids probably were banging on the glass of the tanks or winding up the snake lol so he thought he would get revenenge.
Terrible tradegy but to kill both boys. You'd think that one of them would hear the other or sonething. |
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 12:08:26
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I'll wait for the autopsy report..it seems wrong that a snake would strangle one boy then move to another..surely a snake stikes, coils then eats. It wouldn't leave prey and move on. I am hearing so many conflicting accounts, one article states that there were two boys, and another says three who didn't wake up.
The one thing I do agree on it's a tragedy for those boys and their family. |
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 12:17:25
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| Also, where are the parents? They are young kids and shouldn't be alone, there must have been some screams? And how would an afrock get into the ventilation? The cover must have been off at both sides and the ventilation must have been huge. This is going to be a big snake!! |
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 12:21:29
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I read somewhere that the possible cause was the ceiling collapsed. The boys were staying at a friend's house above an exotic pet shop.
The snake was found in the room but nowhere near the boys..it just sounds wrong but hopefully the autopsy will reveal all. |
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Foremand
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
968 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 12:25:42
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| Once again the press is throwing out a load of assumptions. Before they get the real facts. Well see how the autopsy comes out. |
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 12:26:53
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And why wouldn't the snake eat either of them? It would be more than capable. The more I think about this it seems very odd.
Janie, didn't you find Henry? You need to update your signature  |
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Foremand
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
968 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 12:44:04
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| Yeah exactly. They only seem to stop feeding is when the feel in danger but then the leave. Not attack another. Something doesn't add up |
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 15:32:49
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Seems odd right,If something else did happen to them.Then to find a snake at the scene to.Which got upto the second floor,Don't they have covers on the vents.So both ends of a ventilation system had no vent covers.
And like said,kill two people at once,or one at a time without anyone making a sound? |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 22:20:00
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| From what I've read i don't believe for one minute the snake is responsible for their death i think someone has tried to cover up something by using the snake as a scapegoat. The roof apparently collapsed under the snakes weight which was 50kg so that would have made one hell of a noise and woke everyone up and not giving the snake a chance to attack, but if by some miracle this happened silently surely a snake that size would have struck and coiled to eat one kid which would have resulted in screams waking the other up and everyone else in the house then there's the fact there was only strangle marks apparent on the necks of the kids im pretty sure a snake that size would have left a lot more obvious signs of it attacking them like bites and severe bruising all over their bodies? it all just doesn't add up 1 kid would have been plausible but not 2 without causing alarm to others |
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eyeball
Yearling
United Kingdom
114 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 22:36:21
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| I'm sorry, but I just don't buy this. I'm no snake expert but it seems strange beyond belief that a snake would strangle one child , which implies constriction around the neck, not eat it and then move onto the next child and strangle that one and leave it. If the snake was scared it would strike defensively and try to get away surely? As far as I'm aware, snakes don't kill defensively, they kill to eat. It just doesn't add up. |
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2013 : 23:01:46
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I found that part odd to,falling through a ceiling without making a sound.Plus all the other things,that make little sense too.
The guy that owns the pet store found the kids right? |
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rockroyal
Yearling
United Kingdom
470 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 02:58:07
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| There is no way this can be a snake's doing this seams to be a cover up for the murder of to children |
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 03:24:09
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| Thats interesting that there was strangle marks on the kids necks. I dont think a snake would leave strangle marks. |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 07:39:10
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| The guy looked a bit weird and didn't sound too bothered by it all in interview, id imagine the snake would leave marks but considerably more than strangle marks on neck and id think a 16ft 50kg rock python would have quite a girth and would be hard pushed to fit around a child's neck |
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 09:59:16
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So the snake was probably shot by the police
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canadian-police-launch-criminal-probe-snake-kills-two-200517115.html |
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Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
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Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
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Timmy, Western Hognose
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 10:28:25
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| That report says 13ft another 15, the star this morning says 16! |
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 10:38:54
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The autopsy was performed yesterday but I hav'nt seen the results. Too late for the boys and too late for the snake.
I think from what is released its likely to hit U.S snake keepers hard with new laws. |
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Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
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Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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Foremand
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
968 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 10:55:49
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The bit about a small hole in the tank. If its the size they say. It's not a small hole. Especially if its for ventilation.
They have not stated any teeth marks etc as we all know. Snakes draw blood regardless of size. If the python would of constricted there would be a terrible mess of blood. And a bite mark so hard to miss they must of done the investigation in the dark.
They always will blame the animal as in our world it's defenceless to its view. But they list dangerous animals in there report but where's dogs or cats or foxes all the most common things we live with day in day out.
I got 2 snakes and German shepherd amongst others. And even though the snakes are in tanks some people won't come round. But there happy to stroke my dog. Kids wind him up n people laugh but he's a 50kg+ animal with truth bigger than most digs and would destroy anything in its way if it felt threatened.
This while story is a mess. Reporters and press are too happy for a story they blame whatever they think is easiest.
But what they don't state is. We're did they find the kids? In the bed? On the floor? Did the parents not wake up to the sound of a ceiling falling down? How long until they found the snake? How long emergency services took? |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 14:32:50
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They lay next to you to measure you up. Actually stated in the news.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/fatal-n-b-python-attack-provokes-shock-warnings-090326777.html
2 tragedies unfolding. The first is the death of 2 children, the second is going to be the backlash and misinformation on snakes. I personally can't understand the sequence of events that could have led to this tragedy that fits with known snake behaviours. How an ambush predator went on the hunt and then constricted 2 children one at a time and yet ate neither of them just makes little sense to me. Snakes don't strangle prey either so to hear if strangle marks etc also makes little sense, also there is no mention of bite marks or blood, a snake attack from anything corn snake sizes and up will leave its mark. |
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 17:05:46
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quote:
But what they don't state is. We're did they find the kids? In the bed? On the floor? Did the parents not wake up to the sound of a ceiling falling down? How long until they found the snake? How long emergency services took?
On the floor in the living room,He found them in the morning.
And no one heard a thing :P |
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