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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 11/05/2009 : 11:41:12
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Does anyone know how easy/hard this is?
it must be hard for the mom to have her eggs taken away so just asking...
does it stress her out if you take her babies away from her? |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 11:42:44
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You get a lot higher success rate with artificial incubation, but it is possible.
Snakes have no emotional attachments to the big white things they just passed. |
 
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Kazerella
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 11:46:49
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I read that it all depends on whether your female is a good mother or not. Some royals will do it and do it well, while others won't.
That's why it's usually better to incubate yourself, because your not taking risks if your Royal isn't motherly 
I don't think the snake bothers too much about taking them away. I know Cyd is a corn, but she wasn't defensive. She wasn't comfortable, but she allowed us to remove them and seems fine now. No moping or anything. Straight back into feeding and doing Corn stuff |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 12:06:17
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Originally posted by Blackecho
Snakes have no emotional attachments to the big white things they just passed.
then why do they incubate them?
and we dont really know for sure if they feel pain when the eggs are taken do we?
we can only assume.
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 13:13:57
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 13:46:36
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| and why do they get hissy when you try to take there eggs..lol.. |
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 16:13:23
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
and why do they get hissy when you try to take there eggs..lol..
prob cos it hurt laying them and they are sore and dont want to be bothered... |
 
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 16:44:55
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Originally posted by dazb
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
and why do they get hissy when you try to take there eggs..lol..
prob cos it hurt laying them and they are sore and dont want to be bothered...
not..lol..
it is because they are protecting there eggs |
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dazb
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 16:52:56
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| but do they posess the brain capacity to have maternal instincts... |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 17:03:32
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Originally posted by dazb
but do they posess the brain capacity to have maternal instincts...
yes..crocs do it..other animals do it so why not snakes? |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 17:23:17
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| I thought crocs built nests, but wont hesitate in eating their babies? |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 17:48:39
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I thought crocs built nests, but wont hesitate in eating their babies?
nope
they bury there eggs and the nests are guarded by both parents to protect their unborn young from predators
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alligators swallow there young and store them in a pouch until they are in water then the mother lets them out in a area she has protects also. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 18:06:59
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| Then do snakes have the ability to build up relationships with other snakes or even humans in your opinion? |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 18:09:33
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
they bury there eggs and the nests are guarded by both parents to protect their unborn young from predators
and just in case you did not know this one
alligators swallow there young and store them in a pouch until they are in water then the mother lets them out in a area she has protects also.
Yes but both croc's and snakes will incubate the eggs, but once they have hatched would'nt they consider them as food if they met again?
And I didnt know that. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 21:04:26
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Originally posted by matty18714
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
they bury there eggs and the nests are guarded by both parents to protect their unborn young from predators
and just in case you did not know this one
alligators swallow there young and store them in a pouch until they are in water then the mother lets them out in a area she has protects also.
Yes but both croc's and snakes will incubate the eggs, but once they have hatched would'nt they consider them as food if they met again?
And I didnt know that.
Yeah maybe once they are older, |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 21:36:00
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Originally posted by Blackecho
Then do snakes have the ability to build up relationships with other snakes or even humans in your opinion?
I think we like to think we can have a relationship with our snakes, by that i mean, many see them as they see there cats and dogs but the relationship is not the same, maybe it is one made up of respect with some snakes and then again i think there may also be a degree of trust..
I mean i trust Peanut, and my corn Niali, but i think that is more that i know there limits, i never forget they are snakes and as such need to be treated with respect...
the only relationship snakes have in the wild is the one that produces babies....they both have a need and provide that need to each other..but i cant word it properly.. |
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wolfspirit
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/05/2009 : 08:59:40
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I let a burmese incubate her eggs herself apart from 1.
All hatched producing healthy babies, the 1 which I had in the incubator was smaller and took longer to start feeding than all of the others.
If the mother is of good health and a good weight then you can let her incubate them but if she isnt such a good weight then I would take the eggs from her so she can feed straight away to get the weight back up.
All I did was surround her with moss and keep it damp by spraying 2 times a day.
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/05/2009 : 12:23:15
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Originally posted by reptiles-ink
I let a burmese incubate her eggs herself apart from 1.
All hatched producing healthy babies, the 1 which I had in the incubator was smaller and took longer to start feeding than all of the others.
If the mother is of good health and a good weight then you can let her incubate them but if she isnt such a good weight then I would take the eggs from her so she can feed straight away to get the weight back up.
All I did was surround her with moss and keep it damp by spraying 2 times a day.
yay, well done...
have you done that with any others? |
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