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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/08/2009 :  18:28:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kashie

Ok, managed to get a lift today to see breeder, and ask him what he advised with Ziggy. He seemed happy that he has not lost that much weight and reckons that because he is striking it is just a matter of time.

He told me to forget about assist feeding and carry on doing what I am doing basically.

If in two weeks he still hasnt fed then he suggests trying live.

I did enquire about multis but he has just started to breed them so nothing to sell at the moment.

Feel a bit better at the thought of not having to assist, as that was really stressful.

Will update next time and thanks for all the advice. :)



wait till the day comes when you have to live feed...

its really really horrid, though it is getting less horrid by the week now..it is still not nice..



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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

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11327 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2009 :  18:49:05  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If a Royal isn't losing weight then he's fine. I agree with your friend to keep trying what you are, although I wouldn't say you need to live feed in 2 weeks if he still isn't losing weight.



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kashie
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
567 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2009 :  19:47:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really dont want to go down that road (live feeding) - would rather try different food sources first.
Havent weighed him for a week or so will after next feed attempt if he doesnt eat.



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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kashie
Sub Adult

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567 Posts

Posted - 18/08/2009 :  20:50:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
UPDATE;

Tried again last night, no joy.

First thing in the morning going to Staples to buy a rub, going to try going down that road as that is what he was used to being in.

Had hoped he would settle in and be on display as he is so stunning, but alas, his welfare is more important and this seems to be our only option before he takes a downhill turn.

Will keep you updated.



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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Gingerpony
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Posted - 18/08/2009 :  21:10:49  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kashie

First thing in the morning going to Staples to buy a rub, going to try going down that road as that is what he was used to being in.

good on you kashie

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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  00:34:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
good luck Karen, keeping fingers crossed this will work for him...



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Blackecho
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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  07:10:40  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Good luck.



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karl
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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  09:32:40  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Best of luck

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kashie
Sub Adult

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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  13:03:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's in the rub - all overcrowded and inside the viv he was in on a heat mat. Fingers crossed now that this will do the trick!!



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  15:47:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
good luck Karen...i think it will work;-)


I have two multis defrosting on the window sill right now cos Oscar has come out twice when i was in the room, fingers crossed he will feed as well..




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kashie
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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  17:15:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm funny you saying that Gladyss has been out twice today too!! Hungry me finks!!



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  18:19:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kashie

Hmmm funny you saying that Gladyss has been out twice today too!! Hungry me finks!!




good luck with him,

Oscar sniffed and decided no...so Peanut got a bonus...

so now i have to decide what i am going to do next..

maybe a live weaner to see what he does..

anyway, keep us posted;-)



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kashie
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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  18:28:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well on the subject of live weaners - when we went to pick up Wincey the spider on tuesday - I asked the breeder for advice on Ziggy and he offered me a live mouse to bring home and try.

I brought it into the house and my eldest son (nearly 16) had a head fit that we were going to feed this mouse to Ziggy.
He was concerned that the mouse might bite Ziggy but also concerned for the welfare of the mouse. I was quite shocked at his reaction and as we had visitors turn up whilst he was ranting, they ended up taking the mouse home and adopting it for a pet.

What on earth am I supposed to do if I have to go down that route???

Hubby says feed whilst kids in school so he doesnt get to see!!

Kids eh!!



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

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Posted - 19/08/2009 :  19:29:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i agree feed whilst the kids are out...

i am lucky in that whilst we hate it, my sons have a better attitude about it than me...

i cant do the multis that way...even though the females are as nasty as a great white, they are just to cute...




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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

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11327 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2009 :  19:52:41  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just shut them out of the room and tell them to get their own pets to look after



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kashie
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
567 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2009 :  19:28:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tried Ziggy this evening with a small mouse - he struck hit it and backed off - tried again a few times but he kept shying away.

Got two mouse fluffs out of the freezer and successfully assist fed both and he seemed to really enjoy.

I know this isnt the ideal solution, but at least he has had something to eat, as he has lost another 5grams in the past week.




01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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337smile
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Posted - 23/08/2009 :  20:04:33  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Sounding promising. Good luck with next feed, maybe he'll strike and eat.
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  00:14:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well done Karen...as you say at least he has taken something which is better than nothing..you will get there with him..



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kashie
Sub Adult

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567 Posts

Posted - 28/08/2009 :  18:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
UPDATE:

Ziggy been sitting in water dish - possibly pre shed???

Having been without food until the mouse fluffs want to be sure it doesnt take it out of him if he is - pre shed I mean.

Anyway tried tempting first with small mouse, not interested today, whereas he usually shows some response.

Assist fed mouse really easily he coiled it and ate - so happy days, another feed for Ziggs!!



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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