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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 20/08/2009 : 19:00:56
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Or they see the other snake as something to hide behind/under.
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Originally posted by Vazzza
Damn, i got told  lol
Sorry, it wasn't meant to be offensive, nothing wrong with your question. |
 
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matty198111
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/08/2009 : 19:20:08
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Originally posted by Blackecho
Most snakes are solitary creatures, Royals in particular.
A few snakes (such as Garters) are fine in groups.
I have also seen studies say that Burmese Pythons are less aggressive if co-habitted while young.
However, as this is a Royal Python dedicated forum, then I have seen no evidence at all that co-habitation benefits the snakes. There are however proven risks associated with housing together.
hi again
now im not disagreeing but as you know i keep my 2 royals together
and also my bro in law has 2 royals he used to keep 1 upstairs in spare room and one down stairs in study, one day the one upstairs decided he didnt want to eat and this went on for months so my bro in law thought maybe he was lonely and put him in with the other royal (which was from same clutch as are mine) and yep you guessed it they have ate every feeding day since and that was 9 or 10 years ago.
now as i said im not disagreeing with anyone on this forum as i believe that everyone has there own opinion and everyone has some good advice,
but im just saying what i saw and its up to you to make your own minds
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2009 : 20:01:29
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i'm not against co-habiting but it MUST be done correctly..............
i co habit most of my corns bar one recently purchase still effectively in quarantine, and my 16 year old corn, but it MUST be done right to accomodate the health and welfare of both snakes.
you should also have the provision to re house one snake on it's own and still meet all of it's needs should something untoward happen. i currently have 4 spare vivs on standby with heating and stats....... just in case! |
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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/08/2009 : 21:10:04
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| i must admit that i have been considerating co habitation myself even though i have advised people against it which in a way would make me a hypocrite,i would'nt delibertly buy 2 royals to house togethher but im stuck with one the i took in to rehome and cant sell it and dont have enough room for another viv if i kept it and even though their both o8's and the viv is big enough for 4 hides and everything would be done properly ect im still very concerned about doing it and im finding it very hard to decide wether to or not.I know some would say the dicision is not hard because the risk is there so dont do it but like gp said if it's done properly the risks would be greatly reduced. |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/08/2009 : 21:18:40
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Originally posted by lee2308
...which in a way would make me a hypoctit...
it would make you a what??? lmao 
i co-habit my corns but wouldn't co-habit royals or my Dums even if the sizes matched up. some species definitely shouldn't co-habit under any circumstances such as kings......... |
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lee2308
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United Kingdom
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2009 : 21:29:08
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Originally posted by lee2308
lol,ciders kicking in
*jealous*
*wanders off to find wine.........*
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/08/2009 : 22:37:11
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I know what you mean Lee, it would be nice to all of a sudden be able to double my collection  |
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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2597 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2009 : 23:21:50
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| looks like if i dont find a home for him i might have to sneak another viv in somewhere,he fine in his fuan at the moment,plus he's still in quarantine at the moment in our bedroom so he's not moving anywhere yet unless he gets sold.Got a feeling he's staying though lol |
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Vazzza
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/08/2009 : 09:24:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho
Or they see the other snake as something to hide behind/under.
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Originally posted by Vazzza
Damn, i got told lol
Sorry, it wasn't meant to be offensive, nothing wrong with your question.
Don't worry, i was only joking lol
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Originally posted by lee2308
i must admit that i have been considerating co habitation myself even though i have advised people against it which in a way would make me a hypocrite,i would'nt delibertly buy 2 royals to house togethher but im stuck with one the i took in to rehome and cant sell it and dont have enough room for another viv if i kept it and even though their both o8's and the viv is big enough for 4 hides and everything would be done properly ect im still very concerned about doing it and im finding it very hard to decide wether to or not.I know some would say the dicision is not hard because the risk is there so dont do it but like gp said if it's done properly the risks would be greatly reduced.
Would it not be best to see if both were happy outside of a viv/faun together. Once they've 'met' a few times maybe they will be more happy with becoming house mates?? Just a thought as i really am too new to this to know, well, anything lol |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2009 : 18:07:01
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Originally posted by matty198111
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho
Most snakes are solitary creatures, Royals in particular.
A few snakes (such as Garters) are fine in groups.
I have also seen studies say that Burmese Pythons are less aggressive if co-habitted while young.
However, as this is a Royal Python dedicated forum, then I have seen no evidence at all that co-habitation benefits the snakes. There are however proven risks associated with housing together.
hi again
now im not disagreeing but as you know i keep my 2 royals together
and also my bro in law has 2 royals he used to keep 1 upstairs in spare room and one down stairs in study, one day the one upstairs decided he didnt want to eat and this went on for months so my bro in law thought maybe he was lonely and put him in with the other royal (which was from same clutch as are mine) and yep you guessed it they have ate every feeding day since and that was 9 or 10 years ago.
now as i said im not disagreeing with anyone on this forum as i believe that everyone has there own opinion and everyone has some good advice,
but im just saying what i saw and its up to you to make your own minds
mat
Is it not possible that it ate because its conditions were better in the other viv instead of it being because the other royal was there? |
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matty198111
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/08/2009 : 22:15:42
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Originally posted by matty18714
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Originally posted by matty198111
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho
Most snakes are solitary creatures, Royals in particular.
A few snakes (such as Garters) are fine in groups.
I have also seen studies say that Burmese Pythons are less aggressive if co-habitted while young.
However, as this is a Royal Python dedicated forum, then I have seen no evidence at all that co-habitation benefits the snakes. There are however proven risks associated with housing together.
hi again
now im not disagreeing but as you know i keep my 2 royals together
and also my bro in law has 2 royals he used to keep 1 upstairs in spare room and one down stairs in study, one day the one upstairs decided he didnt want to eat and this went on for months so my bro in law thought maybe he was lonely and put him in with the other royal (which was from same clutch as are mine) and yep you guessed it they have ate every feeding day since and that was 9 or 10 years ago.
now as i said im not disagreeing with anyone on this forum as i believe that everyone has there own opinion and everyone has some good advice,
but im just saying what i saw and its up to you to make your own minds
mat
Is it not possible that it ate because its conditions were better in the other viv instead of it being because the other royal was there?
yes matty that is totally possible and as i said im not disagreeing
but both vivs had same substrate, even the same thickness, both temps and humidity were read from ( 2 of each in each ) thermastsats and hydrometers all husbandry were same.
personally i just beleive that each snake is different maybe JUST maybe some like to live together and some dont.
maybe if he woulda put the one downstairs in the upstairs room it may have been different, personally i have to say no i dont think it would have been, my opinion is they look like they enjoy the company, who knows i maybe proved wrong ( i seriously hope not )
i suppose at the end of the day is were all keeping our snakes healthy and what seems to be happy. and i reckon thats what matters
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Raving
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/08/2009 : 22:21:44
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Originally posted by Blackecho
If you have any problems feeding with the increased viv size, move it back.
no probs taking food hes strike feeding like as bolt out of a crossbow, im well pleased
cheers for the posts guys
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