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kashie
Sub Adult
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 Posted - 05/09/2009 : 18:06:54
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Handling our albino today, my son noticed that he was preshed - which is great because they say that it is really hard to tell.
Anyway, on further inspection, he also noticed that his tongue only has one side of the fork. We think it was there before when we first had him, but because we dont handle him that often haven't spotted this before.
I know it sounds stupid, but will this grow back? Will it affect his feeding? (maybe this is why he hasn't been feeding properly).
Any advice greatly appreciated.....thanks. |
01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 18:19:08
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| It won't grow back, no. They use the 2 prongs of the fork to taste the air and also to judge direction. So yes, it may well affect feeding. How much though I couldn't say. |
 
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 18:22:47
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I agree with BE. You may find that he doesnt turn to look directly at prey because he cant pinpoint where it is exactly.
Edit - Are you using a bulb? One thing I always worry about is snakes burning their tongue on the bulb. The guard stops them touching it, but a well aimed flick between the bars will scorch it. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 18:41:18
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| that might also explain why he is not feeding properly for you Karen.. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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kashie
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
567 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2009 : 23:01:27
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quote:
Originally posted by matty18714
I agree with BE. You may find that he doesnt turn to look directly at prey because he cant pinpoint where it is exactly.
Edit - Are you using a bulb? One thing I always worry about is snakes burning their tongue on the bulb. The guard stops them touching it, but a well aimed flick between the bars will scorch it.
He was in a viv with a bulb, but it was protected with a guard. He's now in a rub and seems alot happier there.
I have noticed the last few times I have tried to feed him that he wasnt using his tongue and not following the scent when I moved it from side to side, but didn't think nothing of this.
What could have happened??
And yes Anne you are probably right.  |
01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 23:12:22
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| How long has it been since he ate? Is his mouth clean? |
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kashie
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
567 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2009 : 23:32:53
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He hasn't fed since we brought him home - see link below.
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2104
We have been assist feeding him as he was loosing weight.
We can't say whether he was like this before as we haven't really handled him because of the feeding issue. |
01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 23:35:34
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| Just out of intrest, do you know what his parents were? |
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kashie
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
567 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2009 : 23:47:33
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quote:
Originally posted by matty18714
How long has it been since he ate? Is his mouth clean?
He last ate on Wednesday (assist fed) small mouse. This is not stressful at all and he takes it first time.
I have no idea what his parents were - why do you ask?
I did see somthing on you tube about breeders and albinos - they seemed to have alot of abnomalities - is this why you're asking? |
01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 23:51:27
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Its good that hes taking if first time, it shows he knows what to do with food.
That is why I asked. Albino x Albino results in problems for the hatchlings. Some hatch without eyes, short lowwer jaws, kinks etc. |
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kashie
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
567 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2009 : 00:05:08
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Would we have casued this (if it wasn't like that before) from assist feeding?
The first two times we tried it was really stressful - but looking back on the thread the striking and missing was happening before we started to assist.
I don't know - I'm just trying to remember if I could have noticed it before!!!!!!!!!!! |
01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 00:11:19
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| I very much doubt you have caused it though assist feeding. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 07:45:23
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quote:
Originally posted by kashie
Would we have casued this (if it wasn't like that before) from assist feeding?
The first two times we tried it was really stressful - but looking back on the thread the striking and missing was happening before we started to assist.
I don't know - I'm just trying to remember if I could have noticed it before!!!!!!!!!!!
I doubt you did this either , dont go blaming yourself Karen. 
Sometimes fate lends a a hand and maybe people will think i am nuts, but, it was probably intended for you to have him before you even saw him...If you understand what i mean.
With you he is safe and you will care for him and look after him...might be a different story if a breeder had got him..
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"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 08:54:11
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Originally posted by matty18714
Its good that hes taking if first time, it shows he knows what to do with food.
That is why I asked. Albino x Albino results in problems for the hatchlings. Some hatch without eyes, short lowwer jaws, kinks etc.
You're thinking of Boas, not Royals. |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 12:37:29
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kashie
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
567 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2009 : 12:54:33
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quote:
Originally posted by matty18714
Its still a problem for royals.
Yes, I agree, I've seen evidence of this on you tube (US breeder) sorting hatchlings out from a clutch - they were a good few with defects - jaw problems and kinking. |
01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey |
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matty18714
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United Kingdom
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kashie
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
567 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2009 : 16:55:20
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Thanks for posting that - it's not the one I have seen, we must be thinking of the same one. (He was actually sorting them out - good from bad and explaining their problems.
Anyway - I've got him out again today and yes he does have a fork, but it seems to only be seen very occassionally. I noticed it and was relieved and went to show my son and then there was no sign of it.
SO, maybe he does have a mild abnormality with his tongue, which is why he isnt feeding properly.
I'm just so pleased I am not responsible, i have been feeling so bad.
Thanks to Anne for her kind words earlier and yes I do understand what she means. |
01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2009 : 16:56:47
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| Yes, we are thinking of the same video. |
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kashie
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
567 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2009 : 17:06:25
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I took some pictures earlier - this is the best one I could get with his tongue
As I said the fork IS there, but isn't displayed all the time, as in the picture - so perhaps now you can see why I was so concerned.
It's like it's stuck together!! |
01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey |
Edited by - kashie on 06/09/2009 17:07:17 |
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