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ryan74
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  15:14:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi,ive been seaching the internet for this answer and cant find it and came across this site...
Q.i have a royal that i bought and its not feed for 2months (all temps and rub set up fine) in the past with a prob feeder they take multis but cant get them back off multis so im thinking as my last resort to give a live so my question is which is easier to get back on defrost rats from live or defrost multis or defrost gerbils if i try live i always though they will want live then?cheers for any help if you have experiance in these options.

boze
Yearling

United Kingdom
408 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  17:08:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How old is it? How heavy is it? Do you have any pictures of your set-up? I wouldnt try live until youve exhausted other options like rubbing a multi onto a defrosted rat pup to scent it before offering it to the snake.

:EDIT: (Someone correct me if im wrong) Also I dont think 2 months is that long for a royal to not eat for, definitely not long enough to consider live feeding. Live feeding can end up leaving you with a scratched and bleeding snake.

D

0.1.0. Royal (Salmissra)
0.0.1. Western Hognose (Spiderman)

quote:
Originally posted by ruxpin64
I'm so happy I may lay on my back and pee in the air like a baby!


Edited by - boze on 08/09/2009 17:11:00
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ryan74
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  17:36:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its a 08 its 600grams set up all fine as have it in a rack with 14 other royals all eatin fine.previous owner said good feeder on rat defrost so said try a live to kick it in feeding again,so just wanted to know "is it easier to convert back from live or defrost gerbil or defrost multi or defrost chick etc"? only if you done this out of your own experiance not what you've hered.cheers.
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boze
Yearling

United Kingdom
408 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  17:50:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So you want to feed it live prey to get it to eat frozen again?

D

0.1.0. Royal (Salmissra)
0.0.1. Western Hognose (Spiderman)

quote:
Originally posted by ruxpin64
I'm so happy I may lay on my back and pee in the air like a baby!

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Danny Action1
Yearling

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  17:53:00  Show Profile  Click to see Danny Action1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If i was you try live rat pup something small then switch him to fresh killed rat then to defrost rat and see if that helps i would stay with rats and not the multis

0.1.0 Lemmon Pastel
0.1.0 Albino
1.0.0 Spider
1.0.0 Pastel
1.1.0 Mojave
1.0.0 Het Pied
0.1.0 Pied
0.1.0 Pinstripe
1.0.0 Double het Caramel Glow
0.1.0 Het Orange Ghost
0.1.0 Het Caramel

Edited by - Danny Action1 on 08/09/2009 17:54:03
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ryan74
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  18:19:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok but y not the multis?have you tried this yourself (the live rat pup then fresh killed then defrost)?
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ryan74
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  18:19:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by boze

So you want to feed it live prey to get it to eat frozen again?

D

basicly yeh
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  18:23:18  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
What is wrong with it eating multis?



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Danny Action1
Yearling

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  18:45:08  Show Profile  Click to see Danny Action1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ive done so much reading in to multis and yeah they are a nice food source and everything but once they are on multis that is all they want to eat and heard storys of people saying that you will never be able to change them back to rats

Plus multis aint always in reptile shops where you can get rats most places and with ease

But thats just my opinion and what i have heard and read

0.1.0 Lemmon Pastel
0.1.0 Albino
1.0.0 Spider
1.0.0 Pastel
1.1.0 Mojave
1.0.0 Het Pied
0.1.0 Pied
0.1.0 Pinstripe
1.0.0 Double het Caramel Glow
0.1.0 Het Orange Ghost
0.1.0 Het Caramel

Edited by - Danny Action1 on 08/09/2009 18:46:08
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Danny Action1
Yearling

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  18:53:28  Show Profile  Click to see Danny Action1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ryan74

ok but y not the multis?have you tried this yourself (the live rat pup then fresh killed then defrost)?



Yes i have live feeders that went off there food so i started back with the small stuff (rat pup live) then worked them back up then changed to fresh killed for a while then to defrost and worked for 2 of my royals

0.1.0 Lemmon Pastel
0.1.0 Albino
1.0.0 Spider
1.0.0 Pastel
1.1.0 Mojave
1.0.0 Het Pied
0.1.0 Pied
0.1.0 Pinstripe
1.0.0 Double het Caramel Glow
0.1.0 Het Orange Ghost
0.1.0 Het Caramel

Edited by - Danny Action1 on 08/09/2009 18:54:11
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ryan74
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  19:07:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Danny Action1

Ive done so much reading in to multis and yeah they are a nice food source and everything but once they are on multis that is all they want to eat and heard storys of people saying that you will never be able to change them back to rats

Plus multis aint always in reptile shops where you can get rats most places and with ease

But thats just my opinion and what i have heard and read

i have hered this too,and i have a royal that will only eat multis this is why i dont want to try my other problem feeder on them and thinking about tring live as my last option.
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Danny Action1
Yearling

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  19:34:20  Show Profile  Click to see Danny Action1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I surpose it depends on how easy you can get multis really but i would stick to rats and last resort go with the multis as a back up

0.1.0 Lemmon Pastel
0.1.0 Albino
1.0.0 Spider
1.0.0 Pastel
1.1.0 Mojave
1.0.0 Het Pied
0.1.0 Pied
0.1.0 Pinstripe
1.0.0 Double het Caramel Glow
0.1.0 Het Orange Ghost
0.1.0 Het Caramel
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ryan74
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  19:46:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Danny Action1

I surpose it depends on how easy you can get multis really but i would stick to rats and last resort go with the multis as a back up

so what would you say is harder convert from live to defrost or convert multis to defrost?
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Danny Action1
Yearling

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  20:22:52  Show Profile  Click to see Danny Action1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I would say multis to defrost is harder everyone i talk to and everywhere i read they all say multis are good but pain in the bum to convert back to rats for me rats all the way dead or alive

0.1.0 Lemmon Pastel
0.1.0 Albino
1.0.0 Spider
1.0.0 Pastel
1.1.0 Mojave
1.0.0 Het Pied
0.1.0 Pied
0.1.0 Pinstripe
1.0.0 Double het Caramel Glow
0.1.0 Het Orange Ghost
0.1.0 Het Caramel
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ryan74
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  20:32:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Danny Action1

I would say multis to defrost is harder everyone i talk to and everywhere i read they all say multis are good but pain in the bum to convert back to rats for me rats all the way dead or alive

yep id agree with that,cheers!
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Danny Action1
Yearling

United Kingdom
322 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  20:43:56  Show Profile  Click to see Danny Action1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
no worries

0.1.0 Lemmon Pastel
0.1.0 Albino
1.0.0 Spider
1.0.0 Pastel
1.1.0 Mojave
1.0.0 Het Pied
0.1.0 Pied
0.1.0 Pinstripe
1.0.0 Double het Caramel Glow
0.1.0 Het Orange Ghost
0.1.0 Het Caramel
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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  21:08:35  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hi, i have a question based on feeding.
I am getting a baby royal python soon and i have been told from the shop that he has been eating one pinkie every 5 days.
i would like to know, how would you know when it is time to give your snake 2 pinkies a day, or say move up the next size however etc.
i dont want to be feeding it one pinkie every 5 days for ages and then realising that i should be offering more
thanks

khiggins
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  21:15:05  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i'm assuming that's rat pinkies? mouse pinkies could go down sideways!! lol!

when he starts actively looking for more food after he's just eaten you can him on two........ or just move up a size. i feed multiple prey items but not everyone does, it's down to the individual snake and keepers' prefernce

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2009 :  21:30:53  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thanks a lot, i didnt know whether it was rat pinkies or mice pinkies lol. i was guessing rat pinkies. Rat pups???? Im guessing they the same, same size and everything???

khiggins
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