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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:23:46  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kerriekins666

i have decided to ignore the pet shop completely

good call hun

the advice a lot of shops offer is the same regardless of whether you're buying a Burm or a beardie.................

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xautomaticflowersx
Yearling

United Kingdom
209 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:28:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you can get day/night dimming thermostats as well as the normal ones. I think they will allow you to set a daytime and nighttime temperature.


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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:38:36  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thanks does anyone have a link to a suitable dimming stat.

Also a problem is the day/night ones i hear detect light changes, the snake will be in my bedroom but the light in my bedroom tends to be on quite a lot as i am in there a lot, and often up late at night, will this affect and how can it be resolved.

sorry to be a pain!!!!

khiggins
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boze
Yearling

United Kingdom
408 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:42:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, you dont actually need a drop in temp at night, some people do but as someone else explained youll probably get a tiny drop at night anyways as the ambient temperature of the house drops a slight amount.

Heres a link to a good dimming stat which is a bit cheaper than a lot of the others: http://www.pawsforthoughtpetcentres.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=218&zenid=1b3ce073c2b376d53ce1426ded52d09f

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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:42:24  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
does this seem suitable for my needs


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HABISTAT-DIMMING-THERMOSTAT-With-Day-Night-Facility_W0QQitemZ390091288177QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects?hash=item5ad340ae71&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

khiggins
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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:43:56  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
so, your saying that the temperature can be the same throughout during the day and night

90F in the hot end
83ishF in the cold end

khiggins
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chris100575
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
743 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:49:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can indeed buy dimming thermostats that provide a night time temperature drop, I have one myself. I'm using a Microclimate B1ME, but I think Habistat make a similar one. On mine you set the day time temp on one dial and the amount of drop you want on the second, eg 32 - 5 for 32 degrees during the day and a 5 degree drop at night. The stat has a light sensor and it drops the temperature when it goes dark. To be honest though a lot of people don't bother dropping the temp overnight, and a normal dimming stat without the night drop is probably cheaper.

While I am using a 100w bulb it won't be putting out anything like that as the stat keeps it turned down. I kind of figured that a 100w bulb running at low power would last longer than a lower wattage bulb running at full.

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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:56:11  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
cool so temperature can stay constant.
thats good
so all i need to do then is to get this dimming thermo for my light bulb, leave it for a few days so that it can sort out the temp and then should be all set

was just worried cause i always thought there had to be a drop in temperature during the night, but if the drop is tiny and people are suggesting that there is no need for a temp drop then thats fine by me

the last thing - does the dimming stat mean the bulb has to be on 24/7

khiggins
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chris100575
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/09/2009 :  15:01:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolutely right. The bulb would be on 24/7 yes. If you're worried about it disturbing your sleep you could drape a towel or something over the front of the viv. The other option would be a ceramic bulb, these give out heat but no light. The drawback is that you need a specific bulb holder for them, you can't use a normal plastic one.

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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  15:05:56  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
well you guys have solved my probs...hehe thanks a lot.
i was worried about having all these different stats attached to my wall lol
the only thing i got to try and figure out is how to keep my digi thermometer, hydrometer and plant from falling off the sides of the viv. They all have, including the plant one of those sticky things you lick, and then stick on to things, prob is they keep falling off. im thinking about double sided tape but even that will loss stick eventually

i will figure it out

thanks guys!!!!

khiggins
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matty198111
Yearling

United Kingdom
174 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  18:24:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well the easiest thing to do is drill a little hole in your viv so the leads can go through that and then you can keep therm and hydgr outside the viv

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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  18:45:29  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thanks, thats helpful good idea


cheers

khiggins
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/09/2009 :  18:51:48  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-NUMBER-PLATE-STICKER-PADS-CAR-CARAVAN-NO-DRILLING_W0QQitemZ270452165142QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cherished_Numbers?hash=item3ef8348a16&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I use these if I need to stick things, you can cut them to size and they are designed for sticking number plates on, so are quite heavy duty and <£2 delivered.

Obviously, don't use them inside the viv as you don't want a snake stuck to one!



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spor
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1226 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  21:53:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BE have to agree those pads are great i have them holding my stats to the back of vivs.
kerrie you need to buy and infra red heat lamp. normal red light bulb doesn't really do the job.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Infra-Red-Heat-Lamp-100W-R80-ES-Screw-in_W0QQitemZ120365115982QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects?hash=item1c0651ea4e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


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Edited by - spor on 11/09/2009 21:55:29
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kerriekins666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  23:11:02  Show Profile  Click to see kerriekins666's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i dnt have screw in lightbulb, do they do them with the connection that has got like two metal rods which connect into the bulb holder

khiggins
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lee2308
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/09/2009 :  00:20:42  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
a screw in fitting is only a couple of quid or you can buy these adapters http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PR-BAYONET-TO-ES-CONVERTER_W0QQitemZ160352353522QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects?hash=item2555bebcf2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

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chris100575
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
743 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2009 :  00:55:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You'd be better off with a screw in fitting, I was sold a bayonet fitting and it's a pig to find bulbs that fit. I used an adaptor for a while and then just bought a screw in fitting holder.

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