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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06/10/2009 : 21:29:07
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Sid, our baby, doesn;t seem interested in feeding. I;ve been reading some other posts and I notice that you guys are all mentioning assisting your snakes in feeding and I have no idea what that means? Also I would like some advice as to when to start worrying if he doesn;t eat? What signs should we look out for ect. Any advice is gratefully received Thanks   |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 21:32:25
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hi, first place to look at when they are not feeding is there home..
If you can give as much detail as possible about his set up and what temps your keeping him at how your measuring those temps etc etc and any photos of your set up so we can see if it is that which needs adjusting...
how long have you had him? is he a baby? how long since he fed?
did you get a feeding record with him...
and it is a good idea to monitor his weight to on a weekly basis...
all this info helps ...
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 21:39:31
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It's my husband's snake and he's away at the mo, I just get worried, but this what I know.
He's 10 weeks old. No feeding record given when we got him. He's in breeding viv at the mo, temperture in centre of viv is 76 degrees but viv only half on heat mat; other half off mat to allow cooler end.
The shop gave Tony bark but after reading a few other posts he's changed this to paper. There's a small water bowl thingy in the coolo end and a couple of bark pieces for hides.
I'd take a photo but wouldn't have clue how to get it onto the site for you to look at.
Hope this helps |
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 21:40:58
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Also no idea when he last fed. Only had him 2 weeks but yet to feed.
Do we measure him just in some kitchen scales? |
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Debbie
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 22:20:29
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| We weigh ours on some digital kitchen scales with some kitchen towel in the bottom. We do it at floor level so that they can't get hurt if they move suddenly. I do not know how you have attempted to feed your baby snake but have you tried slowly putting near its mouth and then gradually pulling the prey slowly along the ground away from the snake? Is it at the correct temperature so that the snake can sense that it is prey? What time of day are you trying to feed it? Ours prefer late evening (9.00 pm to 11.00 pm). I hope some of this helps? |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 22:44:33
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| How big is the viv, what's the temp at the warm end? |
 
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 00:26:08
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HI there
The viv is 11.8"x7.7"x5.7" it's what the reptile centre gave us.
I personally think it's too small but what do I know!
I'm a typical mum and I worry when people/animals don't eat.
There isn't enough room in the viv to try moving to slowly away from Sid.
He seems to not be interested at all and jumps if the food touches him!
I find myself getting really upsey cause I don't like to think that he's in any distress and that we could be the cause! |
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spor
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 00:30:29
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lee would normally come in at this stage and ask were you are. so he can check members map to see if there is any one near by that could may be help. I would say that if temp is only 76 in the middle that they may be a bit low. it can take 1-2 weeks for a snake to settle but not knowing when it last feed isn't great. is there any way of contacting were you got it from to find out?
as has been said above try and weigh so you can see if there has been any weight lose. what size of food are you offering and how often are you offering?
your viv size is fine for a ten week old snake. Royals like smaller more secure habitats. what kind . if you have a camera on your phone you and know how to put it on your computer. then the rest is easy.
open a photo bucket account (if you don't already have one.) click the upload button, it will open a browser allowing you to locate the photo on your computer, click the photo, then click open. this will start the up load. once complete it will come up in a screen where you can add titles etc. scroll to bottom click return to album. you will see your photo. hover mouse over it and below will appear links for posting in web site etc. left click on the link for IMG. then right click and copy. then just paste that link on here. instruction probably explained better here.
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4 |
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 00:45:38
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Thanks for that info. I will try contacting the shop tomorrow for more information.
I've just read a post with a link about ideal set-up for baby's so shall I take out the useless piece of twig that the shop gave us and put in a small wicker pot thingy I have for a hid and a small cardboard box as another hide (the kind you get light bulbs in)? Let me know what you think? |
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spor
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 01:10:59
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check this out.http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1451
might seem a bit crude but the snake will not be interested in astectics as long as it feels secure which is what you are aiming for. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2009 : 06:51:10
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What's the temp at the warm end?
How are you measuring the temps?
How are you controlling the temps? |
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 14:42:24
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Hi there
I have put in Sid's viv an upturned phili spread pot with a small hole cut in for entrance/exit, a lempsip box again with hole cut in side and a small basket type box with a hole, didn't have a small plany pot I culd cut dowm but this is about the same size and of course the water bowl. There isn't alot of space in the viv now. I'm a little worried this might of upset him further though or am I being too sensitive? He's quite active since I did the changes and it's 2 in the afternoon.
I'm not sure how to measure the warm end correctly as the thermomter is stuck to the side of the viv in the middle. The heat mat has a themr control on it and the probe for this is attached to the heat mat. Thermometer is reading 76 degrees at the mo. The heat mat is only under half the viv.
I'm really eager to get this right as I don't want him to suffer unnecessarily.
How does our set-up sound now? What signs should I look out for as indicators that he's happy or not? |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 18:14:18
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Brilliant! Thank you for all your help and advise with this.
Should I be worrying about disrupting him today as I think I woke him at 2pm and he still doesn't seem to have settled? |
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 18:16:52
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| Ps What about handling? Should there be no handling ubtil he's taken a feed? |
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 18:23:41
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| Just bought one of the thermo from link above. thanks for the advise. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 18:26:38
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| You're right, it's generally advised to get at least one feed down before handling. |
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spor
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 20:18:29
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| hi tony you should get 2 thermometers 1 for the hot end and one for the cold. with hot end at 90f and cold at 80f |
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Debbie
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 20:37:55
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| I am not sure if anyone has asked you this but is the snake viv in a quiet room or one with kids/vacuum cleaners etc? |
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 21:21:38
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It's in our bedroom which is quiet and we are out all day at work.
We leave the curtains pulled and blinds down so the room is dimmed. |
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tony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2009 : 23:15:45
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Hi there
Well Sid has finally started using one of the hids I have made up for him. It took him awhile to go into one and he#s curled up nicely in there now and I can just see abit of his body sticking out through the hole.
My next question is that now hopefully I have sorted out his viv, how long should I leave it before I try offering him a feed. I think it's been almost 3 weeks since this last feed! What is the best time to feed him?
Also, and this going to sound like a really stupid question, but when changing his viv what should I do with Sid? |
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Feeding advice
