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reptilekeeper1992
Yearling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07/11/2009 : 23:58:38
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will do
thanks a lot |
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bengy_s
Yearling
United Kingdom
252 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 00:00:53
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We shouldn't be on here this late on a Saturday night! True pet lovers! |
 R.I.P Chester |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 09:30:36
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Originally posted by bengy_s
My little aladin's cave of prey sells small mice 100-130g for £1.20 each.
Small? - That's got to be the biggest mouse ever! |
 
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boze
Yearling
United Kingdom
408 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 11:14:39
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I hadnt realised how lucky I am to have someone 30mins drive away who does top quality, but very well priced, frozen.
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0.1.0. Royal (Salmissra)
0.0.1. Western Hognose (Spiderman)
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I'm so happy I may lay on my back and pee in the air like a baby!
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bengy_s
Yearling
United Kingdom
252 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 12:42:46
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Originally posted by Blackecho
quote:
Originally posted by bengy_s
My little aladin's cave of prey sells small mice 100-130g for £1.20 each.
Small? - That's got to be the biggest mouse ever!
Haha yeah they breed 'em big here in the deep south west! I meant small RATS! |
R.I.P Chester |
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bengy_s
Yearling
United Kingdom
252 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 12:44:52
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| boze- yeah me too. I think its taken for granted. but from the sounds of it they're diminishing fast! |
R.I.P Chester |
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reptilekeeper1992
Yearling
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2009 : 15:18:37
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ok right i went down the pet shop to see their small weaners, and they do obviously look big compared to the rat pups that she has been eating. I asked if they could weigh them, they say they dont weigh them, i asked if i could weigh them, they said would rather not because they dont want to have their food tampered with (idiots!)
so i took a chance and brought one.
plus - the weaner is about the same size as the thickest part of Boo's body
minus - she only weighs 192g, the rat weaner is 36g
how important is this and do you think she will be ok with 1 every 7 days. your the experts, advice please, here are some pictures for extra help.
the back of the rat with the thickest part of Boo
Boo with rat (she wasnt impressed cause it was frozen )
and again
if you could let me know soon as that would be great, she is due a feed Wednesday
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
298 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2009 : 17:51:47
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Yes that size is fine, you can even go bigger than that, the recommended is about 1.5 times the body width of the snake.
While young they have a high metabolism rate so it will soon be digested and put to good use for growth.
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 Plenty of Retics and Burms
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bengy_s
Yearling
United Kingdom
252 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2009 : 18:00:53
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| Agreed. Though 10-15% weight guide is a good rule of thumb, when they are small they put a lot of nutrients from the food into growth etc. So although the wiener is more like 20% current weight, as Dave said its not too wide for him and he can use the extra nutrients to grow. As they get bigger and growth slows you can concentrate on keeping between the 10-15% rule more. |
R.I.P Chester |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/11/2009 : 18:04:45
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| I'd say go for it. Also, she'll put on a fair bit of weight from it which will make the next one easier |
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STICKS
Yearling
United Kingdom
408 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2009 : 18:33:05
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Originally posted by reptilekeeper1992
i have a picture of her next to my xbox 360 controller, taken about 2 weeks ago:
she is nearly 4 months old, weighs 178g (ish)
HI THERE VERY NICE , |
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reptilekeeper1992
Yearling
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2009 : 18:35:29
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thanks a lot guys you saved me 80p
the pet shop were doubting she would eat it, and suggested giving 3-4 rat pups in each feed until she gets bigger, but i dont think that is good for the snake personally, especially if she can go bigger. my mum was also sceptical about it, but i will let her watch Boo feed on wednesday and that should help her understand that snakes eat more than it seems (she tends to look at the size of her neck rather than the thickest part of her body).
also just a question: i know it will be very rough guide because of shedding and the fact that all snakes grow at different rates, but how long do you reckon she could be on then until she could go another size up, (large weaners/small rats etc.)
thanks so much for your help *sends virtual hugs* |
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
298 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2009 : 18:50:22
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By rights if the ones now are about the same width as her then you could go bigger now.
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Plenty of Retics and Burms
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/11/2009 : 19:52:26
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| Weaners vary in size up to 100g, so if you go on the 10-15% theory then up to 1000g, which I reckon could take 6 - 12 months from where you are now. |
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reptilekeeper1992
Yearling
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2009 : 22:44:49
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well looking at tsmreptiles, their small rats average out at about 100g, so when she gets onto 1000g, then she can start going onto these. Their weaners range from 40-50g, so i am guessing that when she hits 600-1000g she might need 2x weaners.
and also, if the weaners that she is going to be eating now for a while are about 20% of her body weight, shall I only be feeding her every 7 days rather than every 5 days, because I don't want a fat snake by feeding too often. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2009 : 06:42:59
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| I would leave it longer after the first one definitely, but then she should be ok every 5 days (up to around 400g for me). |
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reptilekeeper1992
Yearling
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2009 : 12:21:26
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thanks a lot
so Wednesday 11th November - 1st small rat weaner
Wednesday 18th November - 2nd small rat weaner
Tuesday 24th November - 3rd small rat weaner
Sunday 29th November - 4th small rat weaner
from here on back to every 5 days - sounds good to me.
thanking you sooo much |
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bengy_s
Yearling
United Kingdom
252 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2009 : 14:36:47
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Originally posted by reptilekeeper1992
thanks a lot
so Wednesday 11th November - 1st small rat weaner
Wednesday 18th November - 2nd small rat weaner
Tuesday 24th November - 3rd small rat weaner
Sunday 29th November - 4th small rat weaner
from here on back to every 5 days - sounds good to me.
thanking you sooo much
sounds like a good plan to me. |
R.I.P Chester |
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Janos
Hatchling
United Kingdom
77 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2009 : 20:12:52
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Just thought I'd chip in here, that's what I do. I go to my LRS and ask for the smalled small rat weaners they have, weighing to about as close to 25g as possible, and credit to them, even though it must be a hassle, they weight the rats for me and stuff, which is quite nice of them too.
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0.1.0 - 08 Normal Leopard Gecko
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reptilekeeper1992
Yearling
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2009 : 11:14:13
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well bad news im afraid.
When the small rat weaner had defrosted, it was a lot bigger, Boo obviously sized it up and obviously belived that she wouldnt have managed it, i left it in there all night, and brained it just incase it was a simple matter of persuading her to eat.
She is used to rats as she has been on rat pups so i have concluded that she believed it was too big for her. So i took it out this morning and tonight she is going to have the last rat pup that i have left, which although is only a small dinner will do, until i get some more food in.
I have just ordered some rat fluffs from 888reptiles and i think i am going to leave her on these until she gets to 350-400g and then i am going to try again with the small rat weaners.
oh well these things happen, better luck next time
thanks everyone for your advice. |
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888 reptile's frozen rats
