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reikiangel
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Posted - 02/02/2010 :  21:37:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi, can someone plese explain what a het is please. keep seeing it in post and im curious. thanks



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Posted - 02/02/2010 :  21:52:03  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
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reptiledanny
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  18:10:10  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
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reikiangel
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  20:53:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you know, ive had a really bad day today. my nan had a small heart attack last week and ive been really worried her, works going bad and my cats ill. the last thing i needed was to log on to here and have someone being rude when all i wanted was to ask a question. thanks a bunch reptile danny. youve just made my day a whole lot worse.

i really wont bother anymore



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reptiledanny
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:00:41  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
well sorry, all i wanted to do was to say about the search button. wasn't meant to be rude or anything. calm down, soz bowt your nan and all that but wasn't meant to hurt your feelings, none of us new anything bowt your nan. you aint the only one that has had a bad day though. i went to school this morning and got splashed by car. thats the start. got into school and slipped over and really hurt my back, while being the laughing stock of the school. then got bullied all day of this guy who has been bullying me for weeks know and now one will stop it. so iv had a bad for weeks now. to top it all off got home to find that the viv i had ordered had arrived but all the wood pieces inside are damaged.


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reikiangel
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:07:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats ok, im sorry i bit yor head off. just feeling real low at the moment. feels like the whole worlds against me right now. want to have a little cry but might not be able to stop so i think ill just go cuddle my animals.



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pfleming
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:10:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
a snake (or any thing really) is homozygous for a trait if both genes from both parents are the same. A snake is heterozygous if the genes are different.

So a snake thats het has genes from both its parents, eg. if you breed a spider x pastel and get a bumblebee - that is het, it has genes from both parents.

(think im right here - correct me if im wrong)

and sorry about your nan and cat too!

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:11:21  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
im sorry to, sorry for everything. just go and have a good cry while having a good cuddle with your animals.


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reikiangel
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:17:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
im sorry danny, ive just read the second part of you post. im sorry youve been bullied. ive been through the same thing when i was at school so i know what your going through. if you even need someone to talk to, im always here

did you send the viv back for a refund?



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reikiangel
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:23:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks pfleming, i did have a look at black echoes post about breeding but i still find it a little confusing. maybe thats me being a bit thick! lol. will have to read more to try and fully understand the whole thing. do kinda understand what your saying though. its all very intresting.

thanks for your kind words too. much appreciated.



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Gingerpony
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:34:07  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pfleming

a snake (or any thing really) is homozygous for a trait if both genes from both parents are the same. A snake is heterozygous if the genes are different.

i think that makes it even more confusing!!! (and i know what all the big words mean )

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pfleming
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:45:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah i did put it badly now i read it back haha. try this:

Heterozygous: Possessing two different forms of a particular gene, one inherited from each parent
Homozygous: Possessing two identical forms of a particular gene, one inherited from each parent.

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Blackecho
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:52:40  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pfleming

a snake (or any thing really) is homozygous for a trait if both genes from both parents are the same. A snake is heterozygous if the genes are different.

Yes

So a snake thats het has genes from both its parents, eg. if you breed a spider x pastel and get a bumblebee - that is het, it has genes from both parents.

All snakes will have genes from both parents, they aren't all het something. Heterozygous just means different. So having one Pastel gene and one Normal gene on a particular locus would be heterozygous Pastel. So you're sort of right.


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pfleming
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  21:59:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not bad for a noob then hey :)
haha, cheers for the clarification BE

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  07:50:36  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by reikiangel

im sorry danny, ive just read the second part of you post. im sorry youve been bullied. ive been through the same thing when i was at school so i know what your going through. if you even need someone to talk to, im always here

did you send the viv back for a refund?



thanks, no iv not sent the viv back yet, contacted the company when i found the first dint and they sed they would send out a new panel but then i discovered a few more dints and chips and havnt had a reply back. waiting and im expecting them to replace the viv. hopefully ill get a reply today. sorry bout you getting bullied as well. its horrible. i have to make new friends becasue of it. my friends are friends with the bully so...


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ddm10
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  12:04:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
contacted the company when i found the first dint and they sed they would send out a new panel but then i discovered a few more dints and chips and havnt had a reply back.


Who is it danny? Name and shame...


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dazb
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  19:20:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really simple way is... Het is when the gene is not visual but carried.


Sorry to here about all the problems you guys are having with various stuff in your lives at the moment, hope it all works out for you soon.

Try not to worry about the bullies, after all its only school, I know it will feel like its the most important thing in the world right now but in years to come it will make you stronger, and you will realise how unimportant it was.
Just dont feel like your alone and you have no one to talk to...



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Blackecho
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  19:44:07  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

Really simple way is... Het is when the gene is not visual but carried.


True for Recessive genes, not true for Co-Dominant or Dominant genes though.



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dazb
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  19:56:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

quote:
Originally posted by dazb

Really simple way is... Het is when the gene is not visual but carried.


True for Recessive genes, not true for Co-Dominant or Dominant genes though.



So do you class fires as hets?



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Blackecho
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  20:09:07  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes



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dazb
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  20:21:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But they are not visual...?



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