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Snecklifter
Yearling

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  11:21:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have bought an an ADT wooden vivarium in preparation for getting my first Royal. I was going to use a heat mat and thermostat arrangement and so went for the Lucky Reptile Thermo Control PRO II,TC2-PROUK. However, the store owner advised against a heat mat to prevent the wood becoming too hot and smouldering and suggested a red lamp arrangement instead.

Will this work and will it work with the thermostat i've bought? I don't think bulbs work too well on thermostats do they?

Help appreciated.

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Welly
Yearling

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  11:41:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I us a heat mat. providing it's on a stat it won't get hat hot. 30-33 maybe. Not enough to burn


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Snecklifter
Yearling

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  11:52:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Presumably you have the mat inside the Viv? If so, do you cover it with a nother thin layer of wood, or just substrate?

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sexychef
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  12:44:13  Show Profile  Click to see sexychef's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
alot of people just cover with substrate. but i and a few others chose to cover with something. either lino, slate or tiles i use tiles as they hold the heat and spread it further, there is also no chance of the snake getting to it



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Snecklifter
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  14:03:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What kind of tiles?

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lee2308
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  16:28:01  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Roly

However, the store owner advised against a heat mat to prevent the wood becoming too hot and smouldering and suggested a red lamp arrangement instead.


Thats the biggest load of rubbish i have ever heard,nice try from shop owner to sale you more expensive equipment,mats are fine for younger snakes but when then get heavy a lamp would be better but theres no chance of a viv catching fire from a mat,if any thing theres more chance that a un-thermostated lamp would burn it

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heaton177
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:21:15  Show Profile  Click to see heaton177's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
if your using a viv i think it would be better using a bulb with a stat on. how big is the viv and how old is the snake?
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Snecklifter
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:57:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The viv is 3' x 2' x 2' and the snake is yet to arrive, but hopefully no older than 6 months old.

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Snecklifter
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:00:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, Viv is 2' x 1.5' x 2'

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Breezy Breslin
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:33:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have a bulb a heated rock and a heated mat which sticks under the viv but i wouldnt advise getting all 3 because it kills the electric.

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Welly
Yearling

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:56:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Mat is under substrate


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lee2308
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  22:00:36  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The mat goes inside a wooden viv,i would be careful with heated rocks as they can cause burns

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Breezy Breslin
Hatchling

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  22:28:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my viv is a glass 1 and should i get rid of the heated rock.

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lee2308
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  22:51:22  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i personly would as the can get hot spots on them

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Breezy Breslin
Hatchling

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  23:15:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the advice

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Robert
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Posted - 03/08/2010 :  10:14:57  Show Profile  Visit Robert's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have my yearlings in vivs with Infra red lamps on dimmer stats, the red light means you do get to see them without it disrupting their day/night cycle, I would always choose a heat lamp (properly guarded) over a mat which I use only with young hatchlings.


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