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STICKS
Yearling

United Kingdom
408 Posts

Posted - 27/11/2010 : 07:23:03

Hi there all just a Q i am thinking of putting sub back inside my vivs as thay have been on k towel since my mite proplem after going to great expence from the eu it's worth it to see them settled. And no sign fingerd crossed of the little creepers.Now just to be safe
should i cook the sub and treat before putting in the vivs or would you say thats a bit overkill ?? Thanks All.

Edited by - GMac on 27/11/2010 12:03:21

GMac
Grumpy scots admin

United Kingdom
1152 Posts

Posted - 27/11/2010 : 12:22:46

After I cleared the boa of mites, I didnt bother treating the new substrate or cooking it (i use Aubiose). I suppose its what you feel more comfortable with though, and whatever gives you more piece of mind.

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Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
1115 Posts

Posted - 27/11/2010 : 12:53:56

Freezing the bedding for 48hrs is another great method of killing bugs-also there's no risk of burning your house down. I only use kitchen towels or White news paper. find it much more hygienic for the snakes plus if there is a problem you spot it straight away. downside is it's not as attractive.

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GMac
Grumpy scots admin

United Kingdom
1152 Posts

Posted - 27/11/2010 : 13:30:56

Freezing will kill of any live beasts in the substrate, if you are wanting to make sure everything is killed, including eggs, within the substrate you are best baking it.

Mites are passed from snake to snake or snake to people to snake (my understanding)so not really sure the benefits of treating the substrate other than to kill off any other type of bugs that may be in that.

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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 27/11/2010 : 14:22:24

quote:
Originally posted by GMac
Mites are passed from snake to snake or snake to people to snake (my understanding)so not really sure the benefits of treating the substrate other than to kill off any other type of bugs that may be in that.

I think you`ll find that mites are carried airborn as well

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GMac
Grumpy scots admin

United Kingdom
1152 Posts

Posted - 27/11/2010 : 14:33:42

I was aware that mites can travel a fair distance yes, thats the reason I quarantined my Boa, but no I didnt know they were airborn.

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 27/11/2010 : 18:20:47

I have never baked my substrate (I use Aubiose too), I would though if I was using Orchid Bark for instance.

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Yearling

United Kingdom
408 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2010 : 08:41:52

Hi there thanks for getting back so quick iv been useing aspen some one said i could microwave it?. I have read about (Aubiose) thats the one used for horses i think? going a long to the nearest stable shop and pick up some.Thanks again.

Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2010 : 08:52:07

Yes you can microwave it, but you'd have to do it in several batches to fill a 3' viv.

Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
1115 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 : 11:02:58

Appologies I thought freezing also got the eggs as well.

Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 : 19:04:15

Don't worry, now you know and can spread the word :)

reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2106 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 : 19:15:27

i dont do anything to my aspen, just use it, sometimes give it a slight shake to gte rid of dust but thats it, is it important to bake it?

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Posted - 29/11/2010 : 19:44:48

hi, Danny, i never thought aspen needed further treatment but the women who I bought Surahi from today said that in their opinion mites could survive in it, and to microwave it before use ... never knew!

Robert
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
957 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 : 21:36:20

I always keep any new snake in quarantine away from my established collection and on paper towelling so that I can observe any mite activity, after about 8 weeks if all is clear I use aspen I buy in bulk and put it in the oven for 30 mins before I use it just to be sure, just being over cautious as the shop I buy it from keep snakes and have had mites!

Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
1115 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2010 : 23:09:25

quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Don't worry, now you know and can spread the word :)

Will do.

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Posted - 01/12/2010 : 18:56:51

quote:
Originally posted by Robert

I always keep any new snake in quarantine away from my established collection and on paper towelling so that I can observe any mite activity, after about 8 weeks if all is clear I use aspen I buy in bulk and put it in the oven for 30 mins before I use it just to be sure, just being over cautious as the shop I buy it from keep snakes and have had mites!

Hi, Robert, what oven temperature do you recommend for baking aspen? I've had no problems with it but after being told by Surahi's previous owners that they recommend baking/microwaving substrate, I reckon I'll do that just to be on the safe side. Thanks!