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 Posted - 11/01/2011 : 18:18:43
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Is the smell ov a mouse enough to tempt him out of his hide or shud I move it or wait till he out and wot if he don't come out:)
Hi, no easy answer to this, I'm afraid, as they're all different. I bought Shahi as a strike feeder, and after a very slow start, he did begin to strike feed, and I would bring him out of the viv, put him in a rub, dangle his meal in front of him with tongs ...grab! Saada has always been fed in-viv, and so I put a pet feeding mat down on top of substrate, stick ratty on top of it, put a hide on top of ratty, replace Saada ...Surahi I've never seen feed. I was told she was pretty obliging with strike or leaving mousey in viv. She likes it left in with her, in strict privacy ...
Some people defrost the prey in-viv (in a closed plastic box) so as to tempt the snake with the nice smell. Others like to surprise the snake with a freshly warmed mouse ... it really does depend on the snake, and as you get to know your little guy you'll find out what he does like.
Have you been told anything about his eating habits/likes, because then it's a good idea to keep to that.
Sorry if all this is a bit overwhelming. Most babies get one whiff of their meal and they grab it and that's it! I would say as a general rule, let him stay in his hide, where he feels secure, and dangle the warmed prey in front of the hide with tongs (as long as any substrate is covered up to keep it from coating his meal) and see if he will take. If not, leave the prey at the mouth of the hide to see if he will come and take it. (Don't hover too much though - says I who hover all the time - naughty!)
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soloman
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 18:39:43
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| Thx for info when I bought him he said I will jump out of my skin the first time and that he is a good feeder so will give it a go:) |
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soloman
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 19:43:57
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| if the viv fails cud i use a shallow cardboard box with kitchen roll for a rub? |
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 19:49:32
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if the viv fails cud i use a shallow cardboard box with kitchen roll for a rub?
Sounds like he's going to be okay, but yes, anything that contains him will be okay, but not too shallow - one minute they're all balled up, but it's amazing how high they can reach - they can nearly stand on their tails, bless them!
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soloman
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 20:07:02
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seems to be scared of it lol
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 20:10:11
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| looks like mousey spending the night in the viv |
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 20:54:45
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| Hiya, lovely royal. Did he have a week to settle in? Are your temps and gradients and humidity ok? Are you feeding the same prey he was on in the shop? Just a few ideas. |
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soloman
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 21:05:23
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| no i havent given him a week to settle and temps are fine and im buying food from the same shop maybe i should give him another week would that be a good idea? |
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 21:15:30
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no i havent given him a week to settle and temps are fine and im buying food from the same shop maybe i should give him another week would that be a good idea?
Hi, yes, it's a good idea to give them a week to settle in - but there again, loads of people have fed straight away and the snake has taken the prey. If he hasn't fed this time, don't worry. He's a royal - he won't starve. You could leave the mouse in the viv overnight (shame to waste a mouse) but make sure he can't drag it into any substrate. Otherwise, just leave him for another 7 days, and try him again. He'll get there! |
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soloman
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 21:25:36
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| brilliant thx for the info will leave in tonight and if he still there tomorrow will give him another 7 days:) |
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soloman
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 13:25:27
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| Well little mousey made it through the night so gonna give it another week me thinks and mousey can go out for the cats:) |
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 13:37:58
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| Aww, pity, fingers crossed for next week, let us know how you go on. |
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Royalbob
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 15:18:16
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konrad1982
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 18:08:34
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| If he isn't scared too much he will definitely come out. When I was feeding mine for the first time he grabbed the mouse and took into his (her) hide but after one hour I found it there. When I took him out and gave him another chance he didn't have any problems. |
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soloman
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 19:49:50
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| yeah thx sure he will eat when he is ready, thinking of ditching the heat mat wots the best heat source i could replace it with if you could do me a little list i will price it up and save some pennys:) |
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 20:02:15
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yeah thx sure he will eat when he is ready, thinking of ditching the heat mat wots the best heat source i could replace it with if you could do me a little list i will price it up and save some pennys:)
Hi, you will need:
Screw fitting bulb socket, flex and plug
Infra red bulb (and spare bulb - Robert's just posted about how it's a good idea to keep spares of everything in.)
Dimmer thermostat
Bulb guard
I'm assuming you'll have a thermometer already.
Or you can use a non-light emitting ceramic bulb, which wll need a pulse proportional stat (I don't know much about these.) And fitting and spare bulb and guard.
I like Blue Lizard but other people like Ebay, where they will probably be cheaper (just never got my head round Ebay lol.) |
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soloman
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 20:08:47
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| infra red sounds good seem to see alot of them in photos will do a bit of price comparison thx |
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soloman
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 20:17:34
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| sorry no im a pain in the ass but can i put java branch in viv? |
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GMac
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 20:26:07
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sorry no im a pain in the ass but can i put java branch in viv?
yes you can, and don't worry about asking if your not sure it is always better to ,ake sure |
 
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 20:28:30
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sorry no im a pain in the ass but can i put java branch in viv?
i ahve a piece for sale, and yes you can |
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here he is soloman my new royal
