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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 26/02/2011 : 13:06:19
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| hi im a newbie i got my snake last sunday with a setup off a mate of a mate im just concerned because he wont com owt of his hide iv only seen about 4" of him when he sticks his head owt at night is this normal what should i do |
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 13:39:32
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Hi, Welsby, it's perfectly normal - typical royal behaviour.
One of mine lurked for weeks after I got her. She's cheeky now though.
Good luck and congrats on your new royal - he'll come round when he feels like it. |
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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 13:44:18
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| thanx for you reply hope he does soon cant wait to see him n get sum pics |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2011 : 14:06:34
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| After your hands off week if hes eating you can feel free to take him out for some photos :) |
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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 14:11:09
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| you may see him more after he has eaten and digested that. i would wait to start handling until he has started eating regulary. i had to wait 6 weeks to start handling me female as she did not eat for 5 weeks, and waited 3 weeks to handle my male to make sure he was in a regular eating pattern |
1.2 royal pythons 0.1 hog island boa 1.0 corn snake
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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
16 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2011 : 14:15:03
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| the lad i got him off said he only just fed him the night before and he bin feeding him 1ce a month on a large rat. ive spoke to the guy in the pet shop and he said i should feed him every 10 days on a mouse what should i do |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2011 : 14:37:25
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| Typical pet shop advice, they are better off on rats as they can eat less so they don't get as much money as if you were buying in lots of mice. I think once a month is a bit long though but I suppose it depends on the size and weight of the snake. |
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scubadude
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 14:54:28
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It sounds like perfectly normal behavior, as others have said get a couple of feeding cycles through him before handling, I take it from the info that he was being fed by his previous owner on large rats that he's an adult royal?
As others have said stick with the rats, but look at his feeding schedule, you'll find details on the forum, and work on a prey size of 10/15% of his bodyweight.
Oh and welcome to the forum
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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
16 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2011 : 14:57:25
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| cheers for all your help |
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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2106 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2011 : 16:16:38
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| once a month seems a very long time, depending on size of royal and size of feed i would say feed every 2 weeks if he is a big boy with a big meal |
1.2 royal pythons 0.1 hog island boa 1.0 corn snake
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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
16 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2011 : 17:30:18
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he said that he his bout the length of ur arm
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 17:42:01
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I didn't know he knew me lol.
Once a month is probably too long a time period and the large rats are reserved for monster sized royals. If he is the length of 'my' arm thats about 32 inches. I'm 6'4" so I have a huge arm span and doubt that many would have an arm much longer than that. My big 8 month old (550 gram 33 inch) is eating 1 large weaner rat every 7 days. Are you sure its a large rat yours is on, they are about the size of a stupid handbag dog? |
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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 18:10:06
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| haha i dont no to b honest he just said a large rat |
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 18:25:52
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Feeding table (courtesy of Blackecho)
0-400g feed every 5 days
400-800g - every 7 days
800-1200gm - every 10 days
1200g+ - every 14 days
feed 10-15% of snake's body weight
Rat weights, approximate (courtesy of A&N frozen foods)
small weaner rat - 37g
med weaner rat - 45gm
large weaner rat - 55gm
X large weaner - 80gm
small rat - 106gm
medium rat - 162gm
large rat - 290gm
X large rat - 400gm
Hope this helps. |
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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
16 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2011 : 18:31:08
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| yeah thanks 4 that so do you surgest to wait till he settles in and comes owt of his hide b4 i feed him |
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 18:37:08
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| When was he last fed? It's a good idea to wait a week to feed a royal in a new home - and you've had him a week, so whatever his last feeding time was, according to his weight, feed him at the next time after that. It's a good idea to stick to his favourite feeding routine too. All the best. |
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 18:40:14
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Ah, sorry - just reread the thread - so he was fed a week ago.
Just weigh him and work out his next feeding day according to Blackecho's chart - it's a good one - works for my lot. |
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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 18:51:29
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| shall i pull him owt the hide then coz 1 of yous said dont handle him for a couple of feeding cycles |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 19:01:36
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I would wait a week before you do anything with him unless you are on the way to buy food for him then I would check his weight so you have an idea, a quick weigh won't do him any harm though.
Did your friend give you any of the food he has been feeding him, if he did weigh it and you'll soon know if its a large weaner (around 50-80 grams) or a large rat (250 grams +). |
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 19:02:24
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Hi, 'handle' in this case means what I call 'armchair walkies' ie bringing the snake out for a 15 min or plus roam round you or your family's hands or the sofa ...
Brief necessary handling is perfectly ok ie lifting the snake out into a feeding rub.
But, if you have him on kitchen roll/newspaper, why not simply offer him the rat at the mouth of his hide, even if he's been used to feeding out of his viv? It's less stress for you and him.
(I know I said sticking to his usual feeding routine was a good idea lol - but even if he's used to being fed out of the viv, the above just sounds a bit easier!)
If he is on the kind of substrate that could stick to prey and be swallowed, then yes, you will have to lift him out into a feeding rub, but this brief handling won't hurt him - the same when handling after feeding. Give him time to settle (they very often have a good yawn) and then, supporting his belly bulge and his neck, just lift him gently back. |
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welsby
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/03/2011 : 19:37:04
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| guna feed him 2moz just weighed him n he weighs 1050 grams so is it a xl rat i have 2 get him |
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