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reptilemadd
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06/06/2011 : 19:53:29
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| hi guys hope everyone is well anyway the pain that is my royal decided he wasn't hungry again tonight, so my question is if he doesn't eat it can I re-freeze the little blighter for another day :) |
1.0.0 beardie "magic"
1.1.0 100% Het Clown "Cerberus" and "Artemis"
0.1.0 Poss Calico "Ariadne"
1.0.0 Lesser " Kronos"
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin
United Kingdom
1152 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2011 : 19:59:40
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| Personally I dont, but do know some folks that do |
 
Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2011 : 20:16:16
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| I have started 2 but only retry once after that it's binned |
  
2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Posted - 06/06/2011 : 20:17:32
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| I'd be afraid to refreeze a piece of raw meat, never mind a rodent, with all those guts and bacteria etc. Mind you I've sometimes been tempted when a handsome rat has been refused and the only alternative has been burial at sea ... (well, down the loo, actually.) |
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2011 : 20:19:14
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Think it's just a case some do some don't and it's up to you to choose
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2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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markmifsud
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2011 : 20:20:50
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| On the odd occasion I have a spare rat, i refreeze. I was also told that some pythons have showed a preference for the more gamey 2nd defrost. |
1.1.0 Pastal Ball
1.0.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
0.1.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
Bromley. SE London |
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reptilemadd
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
969 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2011 : 20:33:10
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| Thank you one and all I haven't made my mind up yet but it's nice to know that some do actually do it cheers guys :) |
1.0.0 beardie "magic"
1.1.0 100% Het Clown "Cerberus" and "Artemis"
0.1.0 Poss Calico "Ariadne"
1.0.0 Lesser " Kronos"
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sandi
Sub Adult
787 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2011 : 20:54:23
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| Flippin heck! I wouldnt have done that ever, didnt know people did! maybe im a fuss pot? |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Florence
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris
1.1.0 Alaunts - Willow & Brochan |
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jhk2005
Yearling
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 13:45:57
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| I gotta admit i'm with BATS on this one, but i'm lucky in that if one refuses i can usually get one of me others to take it. If I only had one or two pets and it meant I was 'throwing money away' every time they refuse then I can understand why people would refreeze. I suppose so long as it can be done with no harm to your pet then it's OK, but personally i'd be scared of multiplying the existing bacteria by refreezing any prey items. |
1.6.0 Normal Royals - Will, Grace, Lolly, Patty, Maddie, Mystique, Victoria
1.1.0 Pastel Royals - Becks, Sophie
0.1.0 Spider Royal - Charlotte
0.1.0 Mojave Royal - Mo
1.1.0 Yellowbelly Royals - Pinky, Perky
1.0.0 Pinstripe Royal - Pip
1.0.0 Bumblebee Royal - Buzz
1.0.0 Vanilla Royal - Vinnie
1.0.0 Lesser Royal - Leo
1.0.0 Cinnamon Royal - Sam
1.0.0 Burmese Python - Kane
0.1.0 Albino Burmese Python - Amber
1.0.0 Redfoot Tortoise - Chucky |
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reptilemadd
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
969 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 17:35:55
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| Thats why I asked cause I'd never heard of people doing it then I read a post on here that someone had done it and since I only have the one royal (at the moment that is lol) it is just the same as throwing money lol |
1.0.0 beardie "magic"
1.1.0 100% Het Clown "Cerberus" and "Artemis"
0.1.0 Poss Calico "Ariadne"
1.0.0 Lesser " Kronos"
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 18:10:04
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| refreezing would have very little effect on the bacteria sided of things, the freezing stops the bacteria multiplying so its only the same as leaving in all night and then it getting eaten in the morning, only difference is you freeze it and serve again. The stomach acid of a snake is more than capable of seeing off bacteria if it can dissolve bone it can kill off bacteria. The only reason you don't refreeze meat for human consumption is because unless its fresh out of the butchers its probably already been frozen and defrosted before you buy it and repeated freezing and thawing causes the ice crystals to destroy the meat, it would taste funny and have a different texture eventually. Snakes are known to scavenge (we feed them dead animals, any other proof needed) so a bit of a gammy rat would do them no harm unless its inflated like a football from the gases released in decomp then you've got a different ballgame and potentially harmful toxins! |
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 19:53:29
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Yeah, I knew corns would eat carrion, but the thing is, with bacteria, we just don't know how far it's advanced, especially if the rodent's been slowly defrosting and then left in a warm viv for a time. As far as I understand it, with freezing, yes, it suspends decay, but then, once defrosted, the process of decomposition speeds up, so ... well, I'm lucky to have cheap rodents and to be able to (usually) arrange for the days for doubtful feeders to pass on their refused meal to a reliable taker. Do hate wasting anything though! |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 19:55:49
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| I don't refreeze, purely because all my animals get the best of the best. But if done in the right circumstances its no more dangerous than us cooking a chicken. |
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 20:19:23
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Originally posted by Lotabob
I don't refreeze, purely because all my animals get the best of the best. But if done in the right circumstances its no more dangerous than us cooking a chicken.
LOL - us??
You've never encountered Lil's highly dangerous and deadly self-destructing baked bean toastie!
My finest culinary moment ...cornflakes. Without milk. |
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin
United Kingdom
1152 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 20:55:23
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake
My finest culinary moment ...cornflakes. Without milk.
How long does it take to microwave that, apparently im cooking later in the week and sounds nice to me |
Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 21:39:57
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Originally posted by GMac
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake
My finest culinary moment ...cornflakes. Without milk.
How long does it take to microwave that, apparently im cooking later in the week and sounds nice to me
Microwave?? Oh no - far too complicated. Microwave is haute cuisine. Not for the likes of us bad cooks.
Umm, could be you're not a bold enough bad cook to approach the hostile cornflake packet yet, but never fear. There is an alternative. The chip shop. Just remember to say 'wrapped up, please,' and you've cracked it. Well, there is the hazard of garnishing the stuff with salt and vinegar once you get it home. Garnish - very technical term. But what the hell - be adventurous!
Bon appetit!
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin
United Kingdom
1152 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2011 : 22:28:11
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| sounds like a plan, |
Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes
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Laws
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
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reptilemadd
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
969 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 09:18:25
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| Me Too lol but how did we manage to go from freezing rodents to garnishing chips????????????? Bats you never cease to amaze lmao |
1.0.0 beardie "magic"
1.1.0 100% Het Clown "Cerberus" and "Artemis"
0.1.0 Poss Calico "Ariadne"
1.0.0 Lesser " Kronos"
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Posted - 08/06/2011 : 11:31:40
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Originally posted by reptilemadd
Me Too lol but how did we manage to go from freezing rodents to garnishing chips????????????? Bats you never cease to amaze lmao
LOL - I never cease to amaze myself sometimes, but for what reasons I'm never quite sure ... |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 13:01:03
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PMSL, repeating yourself. Only kidding. |
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can we re-freeze?
