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reptiledanny
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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  12:18:40  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
so come on, who went to doncaster, and what did you pick up


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reptiledanny
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  10:29:40  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
did no one get anything then


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stumpy
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  10:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I been waiting for all the new pics, very suprised no~one got nothing unless they all a bit shy?? Come on folks get your camera out. Do they sell at the Kiddi show in July?
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fiestastlou
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  10:56:55  Show Profile  Visit fiestastlou's Homepage  Click to see fiestastlou's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I was a good girl and resisted temptation but SOOOO many beutiful pythons there and i have decided i want a green tree python haha! :D



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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  10:57:27  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I wasn't allowed to go after the baby boas were born :( Need to sell them off :D

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  14:39:42  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

I wasn't allowed to go after the baby boas were born :( Need to sell them off :D



go to the kempton park one in august


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Kelfezond
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  15:40:47  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I will do

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Lotabob
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  19:13:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am I the only one who doesn't agree with these big shows? We go to all the trouble of providing the absolute best conditions for our animals and then go to shows where they clearly are not been kept in conditions even remotely suitable even if it is short term.


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reptiledanny
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  19:25:56  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

Am I the only one who doesn't agree with these big shows? We go to all the trouble of providing the absolute best conditions for our animals and then go to shows where they clearly are not been kept in conditions even remotely suitable even if it is short term.



its only for a maximum of 8 hours, they are very well cared for snakes before hand and most of the time from very repuatble breeders that care very much for there snakes. its like if you were going to take your snake to the vets then you would put it in a tub, you wouldnt bring the whole rub with all the hides and a water bowl.


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Lotabob
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  19:56:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I was taking my snakes to the vet they'd be in pillowcases inside dark tubs to keep them calm, a process of no more than an hour tops. A totally essential part of their care.

Shows in well lit rooms, in the middle of the day, with lots of the animals not having access to water and hides is in my opinion is not a suitable environment for these animals and their needs are not been met. I'm not doubting the capabilities of the breeders, I'm sure they do take care of their animals in their normal location.


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reptilemadd
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  20:18:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bob that's the problem It's only your opinion, most people who breed do so with the intent of making a profit by selling them on, and one of the ways is to have rep shows, because if you were that bothered you wouldn't actually have reptiles in the first place given that all the animals in captivity decend from wild caught and i'm sure they are treated a lot worse being dragged from there home and transported to a totally alien enviroment, cause even though we do our best to provide suitable living conditions, they aren't natural, but that's only my opinion

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Kelfezond
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  20:45:24  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah I think the shows are fine, snakes are ridiculously tough creatures they're fine in a "stressful" environment for 8hours. I think people have a tendency to baby reptiles a little more than we should :)

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Lotabob
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  20:52:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't see my opinion been a problem at all, its a perfectly valid opinion and I'm sure its not just me who thinks its not in the animals best interest. I'll leave it at that, not hijack the thread, I've learn't not to go against the grain I just hope for the reputation of this trade something changes.


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reptilemadd
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  22:03:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well ok then in your opinion what changes do you think should be made that would supposedly stress the reptile less? and why do reptile shows such as doncaster give this hobby a bad reputation?

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Lotabob
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  22:18:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob


I'll leave it at that



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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 28/06/2011 :  02:02:19  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have not yet been to any of the northern shows, but will be at some point.

I have no issue with how the animals are when they are there, so what it's not perfect but they are animals. I don't care how pigs are kept before I wrap slices up them up in bread with some onion and butter. All I know is that regardless of the condition that an animal is in before I get it, it will improve after I get it. If that's a nice decent home, or 2 slices of toast makes no odds.

The only way that anyone could see better treatment of the animals at the shows is simply for everyone to stop buying them. If demand drops then no one will produce so they wont even bother to have the shows.

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 30/06/2011 :  11:28:31  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So .... nobody got anything at Doncaster?

Christ is it up to me to show you all how it's done, I'll go to the next show and buy something mad :D

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 30/06/2011 :  11:52:58  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

So .... nobody got anything at Doncaster?

Christ is it up to me to show you all how it's done, I'll go to the next show and buy something mad :D



i would have, but parents refused to take me as they new id come home with something even if they said no
im going to go to the sept one hopefully, thats if iv not picked up something before then


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reptilemadd
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Posted - 30/06/2011 :  13:42:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've only ever been to the june one, and everyone I speak to says the one in September is a lot better, so saving myself this year for that one lol

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