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SurroundedByMadness
Yearling
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
 Posted - 29/06/2011 : 20:49:16
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This morning I woke up to see Kaa in his waterbowl, which is quite strange because he's shy and i rarely see him out. After he went back into his hide I took out the waterbowl to change the water and found tiny black specks in the water, so I suspected mites. I couldn't do much at this point because I had to leave for college so I put the clean water back in the viv.
I got home this afternoon and checked him over, and theres mites all over my poor baby.. 
However, I was slightly confused because last night I fed him, and he struck and constricted in a matter of about 15 seconds, he ate the mouse extremely quickly. I always thought royals dont eat when they have mites?
Where do they come from? And why?
I'm going to the pet shop tomorrow (as im off college) to get some mite treatment stuff. But can you please give me some advise as to how I get rid of them? How long it takes? What steps I have to take, ect..
Any replies I get will be very much appreciated. Thank you  |
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Welly
Yearling
United Kingdom
423 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2011 : 21:01:37
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Get callingtons. It works.
As for where they come from..... Who knows, they just turn up and get in the way. |
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chay
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2011 : 21:04:41
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| Strip the viv bare just leave waterbowl and hides and use paper or kitchen roll as substrate it will cut down the mites hiding and breeding |
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SurroundedByMadness
Yearling
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2011 : 21:21:23
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Originally posted by Welly
Get callingtons. It works.
Thank you I will have a look tomorrow and see if they do this brand. Is it a spray?
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Originally posted by chay
Strip the viv bare just leave waterbowl and hides and use paper or kitchen roll as substrate it will cut down the mites hiding and breeding
Thank you :) I take it the smart thing to do would be to clean and disinfect the viv, hides and waterbowl before putting him back in? Can I give him a warm bath to drown the majority of the mites on his body too? |
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2011 : 21:30:10
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i did read about putting a drop of fairy liquid to break up the water surface will help drowned the little *******
i would get this as above as everyone raves about it
and can be applied on the snake they have a licence for it now but might not be on the labels if the cans old stock
this is the cheapest online even with the £3.99 p&p
http://www.surreypetsupplies.co.uk/callington-mite-spray-100g.html
and there very cheap on all stuff really
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SurroundedByMadness
Yearling
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2011 : 21:34:30
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Yeah I heard about that too, I just wasnt sure if the person I heard it from was a reliable source lol.
Thank you very much for the link
Its at times like these where I wish I had stocked up on EVERYTHING! Haha |
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2011 : 23:08:43
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Originally posted by D3lboys-Morphs
i did read about putting a drop of fairy liquid to break up the water surface will help drowned the little *******
I dont knowwhere people hear this but washing up liquid is a contaminant, second only to bleach as a dangerous product in the kitchen. (you would`nt want to drink it yourself).
If you want to add something to the water then veg oil will do the job as its not poisonous in any way.
As to where do the mites come from, they are airborn. This may help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdBlrRTEEeM&feature=feedu
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sandi
Sub Adult
787 Posts |
Posted - 30/06/2011 : 15:36:20
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| Lyclear (head lice treatment) mixed with water to a ratio of 15 ml:1 litre water. The active ingredient is permethrin, it will kill the eggs and larva as well as the active adults. Its the only thing that has worked for me but you need to stick to a rigid 3 week treatment program to break the life cycle. |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 30/06/2011 : 23:25:19
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Originally posted by hodgie
quote:
Originally posted by D3lboys-Morphs
i did read about putting a drop of fairy liquid to break up the water surface will help drowned the little *******
I dont knowwhere people hear this but washing up liquid is a contaminant, second only to bleach as a dangerous product in the kitchen. (you would`nt want to drink it yourself).
If you want to add something to the water then veg oil will do the job as its not poisonous in any way.
As to where do the mites come from, they are airborn. This may help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdBlrRTEEeM&feature=feedu
I think they mean't the bathing water and not the water bowl for drinking but always good to clarify something thats not too clear. |
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2011 : 00:12:05
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Yes I ment in the bath water
Didn't think of someone might think I ment the drinking water sorry |
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2011 : 10:20:45
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| Its doesn`t matter if it bathing water or drinking water, you cant tell the snake not to drink, just because we use it to wash dishes doesn`t mean its safe to injest or get in your eyes. |
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STICKS
Yearling
United Kingdom
408 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2011 : 16:34:55
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Hi there sorry to here about the mits,have you rub if not take all the inside of the viv out plastic can be washed hides ect,sub dump it and wash the viv bleach very week solution kitchen roll as sub so thay show up.bath snake in luke warm water with olly oil table spoon
if you can treat the snake with spray all the better but clean and no sub if you have wood in the viv bath the wood with the same solution and cook it in the overn then treat if you can not then dump it and get a new bit.I had a bad invasion never went back to sub still use K roll and still treat viv after every deep clean
hope you get on ok keep us updated.. |
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SurroundedByMadness
Yearling
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2011 : 21:02:01
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What ive did last night was stripped down the viv, cleaned all the parts inside (i.e. hides, waterbowl) in boiling hot water with a weak bleach solution, wiped down the inside of the viv and put newspaper down (we had no kitchen roll) and put the 2 hides and waterbowl back inside after rinsing them well. I then sprayed the viv with Callingtons mite spray and waited 5 minutes untill i put Kaa back in.
I checked him over today, there were no mites in the water bowl, and only a few on him, so hopefully i caught them quickly and got rid of the majority of them. Just got to keep persisting now. |
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2011 : 21:05:01
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| They say treat again in 7 days to break up the mites cycle as there might be some that was not killed that are still eggs |
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SurroundedByMadness
Yearling
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2011 : 21:23:05
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Yeah,the guy at the rep shop said to treat every 7 days, and mites have around a 3 week life cycle, so hopefully it wont take much longer than that. But who knows? Its all experience I suppose :)
I also put my name down for voluntry work at the extremely local rep shop I found 2 days ago that I never knew existed, its pretty awesome there, they had egyptian cobras, alligators, full sized boa constrictors and everything. Pretty impressive for a small shop in a deserted outside shopping centre haha |
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sandi
Sub Adult
787 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2011 : 08:41:30
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The life cycle is 3 weeks plus so repeat treatment weekly for up to a month to be sure, as the eggs wont be killed by the spray you are using.
They can travel a long distance and have even been found inside the cable of light fittings. |
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markmifsud
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2011 : 09:11:49
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| When I had an attack of mites, I tried MITEOFF and that didnt help at all, I ended up registering with a vet and getting the equivalent of frontline spray. After a full viv strip down and treatment, substrate changed to kitchen towel. I never saw another mite after a few days of the treatment. I left the viv empty for 6 weeks to be sure that none came back. |
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Tawfik47
Fully Grown Royal
Czech Republic
1584 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2011 : 09:12:37
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| Hope Kaa will get better soon. |
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SurroundedByMadness
Yearling
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2011 : 19:37:10
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Thank you Tawfik
Yeah, the guy at my local shop said not to bother with MITEOFF because its a comlete waste of time and money haha. But sinse ive sprayed the viv and stripped it down, there seems to be barely any mites, only eggs. So im just going to keep cleaning regularly |
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 18:15:05
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Originally posted by SurroundedByMadness
Thank you Tawfik
But sinse ive sprayed the viv and stripped it down, there seems to be barely any mites, only eggs. So im just going to keep cleaning regularly
So why dont you remove your Royal for a month or 2 into a rub and put it in a different part of the house, that really would be the easiest thing to do? |
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SurroundedByMadness
Yearling
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 22:25:49
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| Sorry, I don't understand what your trying to say lol. It won't matter where I put the RUB surely? The mites are dead, but the eggs aren't, so wherever I put the RUB the eggs are going hatch into mites again so it won't make a difference lol |
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The dreaded mites
