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Welly
Yearling
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 Posted - 02/08/2011 : 17:24:49
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I know this is a little random, and some might not approve.
My mothers cat has had kittens and one has died. Not wanting it to go to waste i joked i'll feed it to sabre. Returning nature to nature etc.
But in reality i could. It's the right sort of size. If she would or not is a different matter.
Anybody see any reason why not? Unadvisable?
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Edited by - Welly on 02/08/2011 17:25:59 |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 17:32:41
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Questions like this are exactly why people hate us snake keepers, you shouldn't go around feeding the single cutest animal on the planet to a snake because you just shouldn't .
Yes you probably could feed it to him, just like if my nephew died I could feed him to pandora but that doesn't mean I should :p
And this coming from a cat hater lol, you wait till bats gets over here with her baseball bat! |
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Welly
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 17:47:03
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
Questions like this are exactly why people hate us snake keepers, you shouldn't go around feeding the single cutest animal on the planet to a snake because you just shouldn't .
Yes you probably could feed it to him, just like if my nephew died I could feed him to pandora but that doesn't mean I should :p
And this coming from a cat hater lol, you wait till bats gets over here with her baseball bat!
Lol, i know what you mean. Curiosity has got the better of me. My ever quest for knowledge. |
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 18:01:37
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Umm - before I read Kelf's post I was going to say - if the mother cat was healthy, no parasites, etc - then why not?? As you say, Welly, returning nature to nature. If you buried the little thing in the garden it would be infested with coffin flies and eaten by maggots and eventually decompose.
My only reservation would be - if the snake would take it, and as long as the snake accepted other prey afterwards - but many of my lot switch from rats to mice and back quite easily (keep royals on rats of course.)
Don't see a problem.
Kelf - you're winding me up again!! (Glad to see you getting feisty, you bugger! All the best! ) |
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 18:25:30
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| I wouldnt purely for the reason of not knowing what the cat died from. |
 
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Welly
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 19:13:46
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| Just had a look and its too big anyway. |
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 19:34:01
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Originally posted by GMac
I wouldnt purely for the reason of not knowing what the cat died from.
Having bred cats, I know some kittens just do die at birth - as long as the mother is healthy, there is usually no infection/danger to other animals - sad, the newborn just doesn't make it. Sometimes it's genetic, or even hormonal. which need not concern other species such as herps. |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 20:32:42
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| I don't think the issue is practical it's a morale choice. Yes it's returning nature to nature but please llet's try not to dondemn our hobby in others eyes anymore than we need to, taking on rat lovers in turf war is one thing but kitten lovers outnumber us fifty to one lol |
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 20:55:46
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sandi
Sub Adult
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 21:02:51
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| Most kittens and puppies are born with worms and probably other parasites that they can deal with and we can get rid of but i wouldnt want to have to give cat worming pills to a snake! |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 16:37:28
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Yes, the moral issue is exactly the same as people from the US or the UK hating on Filipinos and Chinese because they eat dogs there.
I mean - a lot of Filipinos are so poor they only get to eat if they can catch fish - if they come home from fishing empty-handed they get to starve that day. There are no animal shelters or anything like that to control stray dogs. So, they see a stray dog, they get to eat that day.
But, even with that cultural picture, eating dog meat is still looked down upon. Dogs are to be buried humanely.
Same as the cat. Yes, we don't get to feed the cat to the snake. There's just something eeeewww about it. And I can't tell you why it is that way except for what Ghandi says:
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals"
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/08/2011 : 00:51:49
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SaltyTurtle
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Posted - 04/08/2011 : 01:04:42
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Lolwut!
That's kinda good. You should think about a career in advertising Lotabob! |
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newbie
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Posted - 09/08/2011 : 20:46:47
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Have a break, have a dead cat!
Nearly snorted my drink everywhere reading that, hilarious! |
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Kehhlyr
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2011 : 23:37:50
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake
Umm - before I read Kelf's post I was going to say - if the mother cat was healthy, no parasites, etc - then why not?? As you say, Welly, returning nature to nature. ...........
That^^^
I personally would have no problem feeding a dead kitty to one of my snakes.
However I wouldn't do it if the kitty was stillborn as there is a greater risk of bringing whatever infection killed the unborn kitty to the snake.
If it died due to simply being the runt, or mummy cat laying on top of it and suffocating it, then I would. |
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anatess
Sub Adult
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Posted - 12/08/2011 : 17:40:16
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Originally posted by Kehhlyr
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake
Umm - before I read Kelf's post I was going to say - if the mother cat was healthy, no parasites, etc - then why not?? As you say, Welly, returning nature to nature. ...........
That^^^
I personally would have no problem feeding a dead kitty to one of my snakes.
However I wouldn't do it if the kitty was stillborn as there is a greater risk of bringing whatever infection killed the unborn kitty to the snake.
If it died due to simply being the runt, or mummy cat laying on top of it and suffocating it, then I would.
I wouldn't. Just like I wouldn't feed my pet dog to my snake or my pet snake to the fish. I don't even feed my pet rat to my snake.
If some cat forum would get a hold of this thread, there would be a fight going on.
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Welly
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/08/2011 : 17:53:08
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| Blimey im surprised this is still going. As far as i am aware it was a runt. Died naturally. |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
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Posted - 12/08/2011 : 21:52:41
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Originally posted by Welly
Blimey im surprised this is still going. As far as i am aware it was a runt. Died naturally.
It is an interesting question. At least I'm interested in it.
It's really made me think.
I don't know - even if it dies naturally, I think cat lovers wouldn't like them used as food, unless it was being bred for food.
Okay, so, when I was about 12 years old, we had one of our family dogs got out and got hit by a car. So my dad was going to take the dog and give it to these guys. I can't be sure but I think they planned on processing the meat to feed their game cocks (okay, so it is also legal to put 2 roosters in an arena to fight - the country is quite messed up).
My mom and dad had such a fight that I went and sneaked into where the dog was and hurriedly buried the dog.
But now... I'm thinking to myself... I have pet rats. A boy and a girl. I will be very upset when the rats die if my husband feeds them to the snake.
BUT... maybe this is hypocritical. Because, these same rats are making babies... and all the babies go to the rat rack that is used to feed the snakes.
So, I'm thinking to myself... why is it okay to feed the babies, but not the parents? Is it because of the "pet" status that these rats have? I mean, they're like our children. They were raised specifically to be a member of our family. The baby rats - they're bred specifically to be snake food. So, does that make a difference?
I'm in a dog forum too - I have pet dogs - and the main thing these guys say to new members is to feed the dogs premium dog food because - the generic kibbles at the grocery store are made from dead pet animals from the kill shelters among other things.
I don't know. It would be really cool to get a more in-depth discussion on the moral issue of this particular topic. I mean - the UK has a lot more pet "sensitivities" than the US if I base it on the number of legislations you have on animal cruelty and the like. So, you guys should have an interesting viewpoint on this one. I think.
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Posted - 12/08/2011 : 22:04:16
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Good god - that info about kibbles chills my blood!
Yes - if one of my cats died, no way could I feed it to a snake, supposing I had a snake big enough. That cat is a person.
But a still born kitten (and few stillborns carry infections/parasites unless the mother has) hasn't lived and therefore it's possible to feel un-attached to the little thing, even though you can still feel pity.
However - hell, when I die, if my body can feed a few snakes or other carnivores - why the hell not eh? I won't be in the thing, and it's got to be disposed of somehow. Frankly my dears I don't give a ****! |
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SaltyTurtle
Yearling
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Posted - 13/08/2011 : 01:03:50
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Ahh just let him eat the bloody thing, cats are the devils dingleberries anyway, and it's just nature's way of telling them, THEY SUCK! |
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