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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  19:26:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have a great weight chart, but it would be useful to know what the lenths are. It is the only reliable way to know if your snake is getting obese.

Slinky measured 22"..6.5 months
lol I waited until he stretched out and placed a nylon belt beside him as he was heading for Katana's toes.



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa

Se7enS1ns
Yearling

United Kingdom
354 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  19:29:59  Show Profile  Visit Se7enS1ns's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A weight chart you say??

Measuring length is hard, she never goes full stretch!!

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GMac
Grumpy scots admin

United Kingdom
1152 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  19:37:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
weight isnt dependant on length and what its being fed and how often. Snakes can get obese at any length


Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  19:37:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Se7enS1ns

A weight chart you say??

Measuring length is hard, she never goes full stretch!!


*chuckles* yeah it's not easy if they stay curled up!



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  19:40:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's true Gmac, but if a snake is gaining weight swiftly without growing much in length..that's what I meant as a good indicator of getting a little too plump :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin

United Kingdom
1152 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  19:58:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
shape is more of a giveaway ;)


Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes

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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  20:06:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't see the link between length and obesity. Its not a reliable way to measure a snake as they dont stay still and rarely stretch out to full length. Also one snake may only get to 3 feet (male for example) where as some Royals can hit 5-6 feet in rare (freak) occasions and they weigh a ton.

The only reliable way to judge obesity is body shape and in a heavy bodied snake like a Royal you can also feel the thin layer of fat over the tube of muscle that they are, they should be chunky but not squidgy, and fat deposits tend to go for the bottom (like women lol) so they get lumpy bits and 'hips'. Its also worth saying I dont think I've seen an example of a severely obese Royal in all the research and general nerding I've done.


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jimmer7
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
661 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  20:07:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi Janie W sorry too change subject,but how are you getting on with kritters crumble,i had prob with low humidity last shed,but Winston shed again yesterday and it was perfect,i added a moss box plus flannel on hide and sprayed plants twice a day.

Winston Pinstripe
Pepsi Lesser Yb
Ronnie Sulfur Mojave
Sponge bob Firefly
Dr marshmallow brazilan black terranchala
Skellator costa Rican zebra T
Plus4 hissing cockroaches.
Reggie CA dwarf boa het blood
Willow Hognose
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  20:54:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hiya Jimmer, the humidity is low..varies from 25% to 27% he's due to shed any day now so I bought a large moss box and moss, but he's spending his time between his vine and a crevice in his mango root.
I'll keep an eye on him and let you know how the shed goes.
All in all i'm happy with it, I called my vet and he told me not to mist as that can cause RI's so i'm being vigilent :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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jimmer7
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
661 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  21:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the reply did not know that about misting,won"t do that again then. but the moss box worked well(sandwich box with hole in top).

Winston Pinstripe
Pepsi Lesser Yb
Ronnie Sulfur Mojave
Sponge bob Firefly
Dr marshmallow brazilan black terranchala
Skellator costa Rican zebra T
Plus4 hissing cockroaches.
Reggie CA dwarf boa het blood
Willow Hognose
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  21:07:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's for Fea my Boa..moss box is better anyway as you discovered :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  21:17:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Blimey, critters crumble is absorbing 50% of the humidity of an average house, it must be expanding like a nappy in a swimming pool lol. Spraying itself wont cause RI's, not with such low humidity in the vivarium, its more likely to cause scale rot on wet substrate so if you do spray to increase humidity stick to spraying foliage and walls, leave the floor dry as best you can anyway. It takes prolonged exposure to high to very high humidity to cause issues, basically the glass would be all fogged up and the walls dripping, I have a high humidity vivarium for my crestie and its really difficult keeping humidity high so you'd really have to try hard to get it to an unsafe level for long periods.


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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  21:24:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah Rob it was when I asked about those automtic foggers,,I was told no. A misting bottle is very light so yeah should be safe. The Kritters is dry, no expansion, but Fea seems quite happy up on his vine.
So sorry Jimmers, I forgot I hadn't asked about basic misting :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  21:34:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah those foggers look awesome but arent great for Royals, I'm looking into an auto sprayer in the arboreal setup I'm designing for the crestie and the GTP but thats not actually relevant at all I'm just excited to be designing it lol.

A bit of spraying harms nothing (apart from my dog who legs it now whenever I get the sprayer out, its a pressure sprayer and can fire a mist or a single jet, I had to test it, oops) Sanke actually sticks her head into the spray because my vivariums do get very dry with the ceramic heating she seems to appreciate it or she is lazy and just likes a lazy drink.


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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  21:38:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm I wonder if a damp cloth folded up on the cage around the microclimate is safe, probably not as its electric..that'd be too easy lol



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 13/03/2012 :  21:51:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I stick a damp cloth over the hot side hide, does the job for me.


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