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jhk2005
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United Kingdom
166 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2012 :  11:00:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi folks, sorry i've been quite quiet lately, but i've just read an article in the latest practical reptile keeping and need to share it with you all.

This article was by Chris Newman, chairman of the Federation of British Herpetologists. The link to the consultation form is http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=invasives&lang=en, you should then see a box labelled 'short name'. Type 'invasiveupdated' and it will take you to the appropriate form.

As most of you are aware the USA has recently introduced new legislation concerning 'invasive alien species' due to the problems with burmese pythons in florida. It now seems that european union has decided to follow that same route and the consultation closes by 12th April.

This legislation could be imposed on all of us, regardless of whether we live in the UK, norway or anywhere else within the european union and a 'one size fits all' approach to this situation (as often happens with european legislation) I find totally unacceptable.

While most pet reptiles kept within the uk alone would die if trying to survive wild in our climate (and therefore pose no risk to our native environment) the same animals may manage to survive wild in spain/italy due to the warmer climate. It should therefore go without saying that each country should be treated individually. For us here in the UK this should mean that our hobby is left alone but this may not be the case.

Potentially, the umbrella term 'invasive alien species' will include all non-native species of animals, fish, birds, insects, plants etc and in the worst possible case our HOBBY could be made ILLEGAL, with our animals being CONFISCATED & EUTHANIZED. The thought of any life being needlessly destroyed angers, sickens and distresses me greatly as I am sure it will all of you.

I'm not trying to scare-monger but this is an important situation that will affect us all. I hope that you will all please follow the link and complete the questionnaire. It should only take 10-15mins and if we make a loud enough voice on this we will hopefully protect ourselves and our pets from anything happening.

1.6.0 Normal Royals - Will, Grace, Lolly, Patty, Maddie, Mystique, Victoria
1.1.0 Pastel Royals - Becks, Sophie
0.1.0 Spider Royal - Charlotte
0.1.0 Mojave Royal - Mo
1.1.0 Yellowbelly Royals - Pinky, Perky
1.0.0 Pinstripe Royal - Pip
1.0.0 Bumblebee Royal - Buzz
1.0.0 Vanilla Royal - Vinnie
1.0.0 Lesser Royal - Leo
1.0.0 Cinnamon Royal - Sam
1.0.0 Burmese Python - Kane
0.1.0 Albino Burmese Python - Amber
1.0.0 Redfoot Tortoise - Chucky

Edited by - jhk2005 on 29/03/2012 13:09:08

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Posted - 29/03/2012 :  11:21:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jhk - long time no see, how are you?

I think I might have filled this form in already as someone else posted a similar thread a while back - but no harm in reminding people again - if you haven't filled in this form, guys, I really think you ought to lol.

Only problem is, I can't access it on that link you give - it may just be me though. There's a list of subjects, 280+ not in alphabetical order, and I couldn't make the search thingy work. But, as I say this may just be me ...

Hope this legislation turns out to be sensible, for the sake of our snakes.


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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2012 :  11:44:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Anybody that fills the form out, I would advise not to give your personal details, it could be used to track snake keepers.

It angers me that everything the Americans do, seems every other country jumps in to follow suit. I am so damn mad even thinking about that my skin crawls!



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
3326 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2012 :  13:22:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
already filled in a cross posted, have also contacted one of my local mep's about this

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jhk2005
Yearling

United Kingdom
166 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2012 :  13:24:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi BATS, i'm grand thanks, how about you? hope everythings ok :) i've been working a LOT of night shifts and not in a regular pattern unfortunately so most of my days off i'm either busy with my other half or the snakes.

Sorry about the link, i've edited my original post to make things clearer. And don't worry Janie, they don't ask for personal details, you select the option for an 'interested citizen' and that's all they ask. names and addresses are not requested.

At the risk of being sanctimonius, technically all living things, including humans were an 'invasive species' at some point in their evolution. Conveniently, our governments seem to have overlooked this fact. This legislation is yet another attempt for those in power to try and play god and control absolutely everything about this planet, one day they will learn that nobody can.

The main thing is that now, more than ever, we ALL need to become involved in supporting the continuation of our hobby and the right of our animals to remain safe in our care. Thanks to everyone who's completed this survey already and to those of you that will be completing it soon. :)

1.6.0 Normal Royals - Will, Grace, Lolly, Patty, Maddie, Mystique, Victoria
1.1.0 Pastel Royals - Becks, Sophie
0.1.0 Spider Royal - Charlotte
0.1.0 Mojave Royal - Mo
1.1.0 Yellowbelly Royals - Pinky, Perky
1.0.0 Pinstripe Royal - Pip
1.0.0 Bumblebee Royal - Buzz
1.0.0 Vanilla Royal - Vinnie
1.0.0 Lesser Royal - Leo
1.0.0 Cinnamon Royal - Sam
1.0.0 Burmese Python - Kane
0.1.0 Albino Burmese Python - Amber
1.0.0 Redfoot Tortoise - Chucky
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2012 :  13:27:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah right, thanks Jhk..in that case i'll fill it out :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Posted - 29/03/2012 :  14:49:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Jhk, I'm fine - been fighting off the mites but hopefully clear now thanks to the Callingtons'. Night shift? That's a bugger, but hope you're making lots of lovely dough lol.

Accessed that form and filled it in again, he he!


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