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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  20:55:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all was just wondering what substrate you use for your royals? I've been thinking of changing mine up and giving the viv a new look so i thought id find out what other people use...

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

richard v
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
563 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  21:00:24  Show Profile  Click to see richard v's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi Austin
Just aspen and Eco bark in mine.
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Posted - 20/03/2012 :  21:00:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Except for the smallest corns, who are on kitchen roll so that I can find the mess more easily, I like aspen.

Until the damn stuff gets into my socks!!!!


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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  21:06:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didnt think aspen was ok for royals cause it goes mouldy with the humidity ? Well that's what i been told anyways...

We use aspen for the 2 corns and it gets everywhere! Tis a pain!

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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GMac
Grumpy scots admin

United Kingdom
1152 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  21:21:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aubiose here. And the humidity for the royals shouldnt effect the aspen


Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes

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Posted - 20/03/2012 :  21:22:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're not kidding. It's terrible stuff. Got a life of its own. Worse than cat litter!

But the snakes seem to like it (the colubrids like to burrow in it) and the only thing I do re humidity for the royals is waterbowls permanently in hot end, and there's no mouldiness.

Couldn't vouch for if you spray the stuff of course.


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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  21:33:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah cat litter is a pain!! Ok I'll have a think

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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Se7enS1ns
Yearling

United Kingdom
354 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  22:03:58  Show Profile  Visit Se7enS1ns's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Orchid bark chippings in both of mine! I like the natural look.

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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  23:47:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dunno what to go for, the Missus is always getting frustrated at me cause I'm always wanting to buy new things and change Kane's viv up :)

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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DISCOVERAYL17
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
8 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  16:06:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dont know what type of cat litter your talking about saying its a pain, I use BIO CATOLET (from pets at home 25 ltr for £9.99) Its the best substrate ive ever used. It is made from compressed newspaper with no added chemicals.I still put paper under the litter, and when cleaning out, the paper undeneath is that clean and dry you could sit and read it.There is no smell, it is so easy to spot clean and no worries about the snakes swallowing it cos its only newspaper,it extend the time between cleans dramatically.
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Posted - 21/03/2012 :  16:28:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I mean the Fuller's Earth cat litter (which I use for my cats, not snakes.) It's gritty grey stuff and when the cats get out of the (hooded) tray, a sprinkle of litter comes out too, and, despite sweeping all the time, gets tracked everywhere. But after decades of cats, I still prefer the Fuller's earth (Sainsbury's ultra-clumping.)

If you've no cats and are just using the PAH stuff for your snakes, Discoveray, then you won't know what a nuisance the Fuller's earth type stuff is. It's terrible lol! Interesting about the Bio Catolet though - will have a look at that next time I'm going past PAH, because if it's designed for cats it ought to be even more absorbent than aspen, and as you say more digestible if swallowed, and if you find it doesn't track everywhere, that would be cool ...


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Posted - 21/03/2012 :  16:36:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is this the stuff? I can only find a link to this, but this stuff does seem to contain additives.

http://www.biocatolet.co.uk/Biocat/


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DISCOVERAYL17
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
8 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  16:40:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi again, its the best looking substrate as well and it certainly doesnt track anywhere at all, as for absorbant...wow, as i said earlier the newspaper underneath the litter is pristine even weeks later, for a trial you can buy smaller bags of 12 ltr for about a fiver, cheers Ray
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  17:52:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For our cats we just used normal cat litter but they'd get in there and kick it everywhere every time we put fresh down!!

Thinking on it, Kane's the same, every time i clean out his viv and put fresh substrate in he starts pushing it all about with his nose!

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2012 :  21:51:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use Kritters Crumble, its coconut husk :)



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anatess
Sub Adult

USA
669 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2012 :  01:14:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aspen when humidity is high, Cypress if humidity is low.

Yeah, welcome to Florida.


Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose
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Bluepoolshark
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2012 :  10:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anybody use Zoomed Forest Floor bedding? (100% cypress mulch) Thinking of giving it a try for my royal
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