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spuddastu
Yearling

United Kingdom
112 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2009 :  21:22:29  Show Profile
hi ive been told to use rat pups for feeding of some people and mice of others, wonderd if you could help as dont know wot to use realy

ddm10
Yearling

United Kingdom
189 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2009 :  21:30:45  Show Profile
Rat pups have better nutritional value but both are fine. As they get bigger though one rat will be a enough but you'd have to give mabye two mice at one feed and sometimes it's hard enough to get them to take one! The earliest you can get them on rats the better. I want to get mine on rats but the problem is getting hold of them, my local shop had large ones which were way too big but no smaller ones so I'm still feeding mice. I don't know what he's going to make of a rat yet.


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spuddastu
Yearling

United Kingdom
112 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2009 :  21:34:54  Show Profile
mine is being fed on mice at the min, so will see if i can get some from my local shop

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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2009 :  22:13:43  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
As ddm10 said,rats have a higher fat content which is better for royals,the sooner the better.

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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2009 :  22:26:44  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
the main issue with whether to feed mice or rats is more to do with what they'll eat as they get older. you don't want to have to feed an adult royal 10 mice per meal when feeding a rat is easier, more appropriately sized and nutritionally balanced. so it's better to get them onto rats asap.

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Gingerpony
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2009 :  22:27:31  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
of course that's easier said than done though.............

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spuddastu
Yearling

United Kingdom
112 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2009 :  22:48:26  Show Profile
thanx alot you guys,

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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2009 :  23:08:28  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

of course that's easier said than done though.............


your telling me,mine was fine with rats then suddenly is scared stiff of them,show him a mouse and he nails it straight away.

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wolfspirit
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2009 :  23:11:25  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

of course that's easier said than done though.............


your telling me,mine was fine with rats then suddenly is scared stiff of them,show him a mouse and he nails it straight away.




have you tried him with a mouse size rat?



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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2009 :  23:18:53  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

the main issue with whether to feed mice or rats is more to do with what they'll eat as they get older. you don't want to have to feed an adult royal 10 mice per meal when feeding a rat is easier, more appropriately sized and nutritionally balanced. so it's better to get them onto rats asap.



Exactly.



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337smile
Yearling

296 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2009 :  17:57:17  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address
My baby royal has had six feeds in the six weeks he has been on the planet. Is now eating every five days. YAY!

He has had 5 rat pups and one fuzzy sandwiched in the middle. What do I move onto feeding him next, in terms of size, or is multiple rat pups best?

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337smile
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Posted - 13/06/2009 :  17:58:40  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address
Sorry for hijacking this thread, it just seemed appropriate whilst reading through old posts looking for tips.
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2009 :  18:32:18  Show Profile
i have just moved my little one from rat pups to small rat weeners...how much does he weigh...???



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Blackecho
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/06/2009 :  18:37:15  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Rat Pups to Rat Fluffs (or small Rat Weaners). Try and give your snake 10-15% of its body weight for a feed. So if it weighs 100g, 10-15g of rat. Rat Fluffs/Very Small Weaners start at around 20g.



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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2009 :  18:37:49  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

of course that's easier said than done though.............


your telling me,mine was fine with rats then suddenly is scared stiff of them,show him a mouse and he nails it straight away.



I think that the feeding response is better with a mouse because they reek to high heaven. Defrost a rat in a freezer bag then open it, smells a bit but it's not too bad. Do the same with a mouse and JEEEEEEZUSSSSS!!! They can't resist.


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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2009 :  18:45:02  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Paulusworm


I think that the feeding response is better with a mouse because they reek to high heaven. Defrost a rat in a freezer bag then open it, smells a bit but it's not too bad. Do the same with a mouse and JEEEEEEZUSSSSS!!! They can't resist.





my rats smell alot more than my mice...



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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/06/2009 :  18:48:21  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
I thought so too Daz, odd.



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337smile
Yearling

296 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2009 :  20:07:35  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address
weighs about 85 at the moment
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337smile
Yearling

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Posted - 13/06/2009 :  20:09:09  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address
So I should stick with a rat pup every 5 days until he weighs about 200 or so?
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/06/2009 :  20:31:48  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Not sure how much Rat Pups weigh, I'm guessing around 10g, which is about right for his current weight.



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337smile
Yearling

296 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2009 :  20:55:33  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address
Yeah they are about 10 g. Weighed them last night. I know I'm getting ahead of myself, with him being only 6 weeks old but just wanted to know what to feed him next when he has grown up a bit. Thanks
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