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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10/05/2009 : 15:46:24
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Would you do it if you had a young royal that was not feeding?
i know i said i never would, but am seriously considering this route before i even try frozen thawed..
i am talking rat pups not fully grown mice or anything.. |
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Danny Action1
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:23:32
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| yep i do its not nice but does the job |
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:24:58
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In all honesty......... yes, closely monitored and as a last resort before force feeding. Not because I think it's cruel but because I would be concerned about the snake getting hurt.
Hopefully it won't come to that for you though Anne. Plenty of time, patience and weighing before you resort to it  . |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:30:13
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some people would live feed a stubborn feeder before assist feeding, others would leave live to the very last resort................ think i'd try live personally (and i might be in this position with Dumbo unless he takes these gerbils regularly). rat/mice pinkies or fuzzies are relatively harmless compared to an adult, and providing it's done with all due care and attention.......
just because live feeding is a taboo subject/practice in the UK, in other places it's commonplace - like for Anatess in the US |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:31:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny Action1
yep i do its not nice but does the job
Danny, did you have a young difficult royal?
how old was it?
was it hard to source baby rats?
what was the response from your non feeder?
did you manage to get them onto defrost after? |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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karl
Fully Grown Royal
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:55:21
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| if it's rat pups then why not, there is no chance of damage to the snake, and helps with a feeding response |
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theonlydarrenever
Yearling
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:57:28
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| i would do it if my snake wasn't eating, but i'd have no idea where to actually buy live feeder mice/rats.. :\ |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:05:08
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| I would try live before assist and force feeding. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:05:13
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| Yes, I would use live-feeding if necessary, no second thoughts. |
 
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Danny Action1
Yearling
United Kingdom
322 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:21:34
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Well I got 2 royals on live food and they was on live when bought them well i think so he had so many to feed in was just easyer to live feed for him im talking 200+Royals.
I did try all the methods out there instead of live feeding and after all that its just easyer to live feed Im only talking about rat pups at the mo but now they are on weaners as of next week and they have teath now so just have to see if they strike in all the right places fingers crossed. I buy the live food from where i bought the royals but now have started breeding my own rats
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0.1.0 Lemmon Pastel
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0.1.0 Het Orange Ghost
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:26:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony
some people would live feed a stubborn feeder before assist feeding, others would leave live to the very last resort................ think i'd try live personally (and i might be in this position with Dumbo unless he takes these gerbils regularly). rat/mice pinkies or fuzzies are relatively harmless compared to an adult, and providing it's done with all due care and attention.......
just because live feeding is a taboo subject/practice in the UK, in other places it's commonplace - like for Anatess in the US
am not happy doing it GP, but i am thinking along the lines that this girl has been assist fed since December and rather than mess her around go straight live, i will try her one feed defrost, if that does not work, then i will go live. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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Danny Action1
Yearling
United Kingdom
322 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:27:51
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| With the live food aswell its seconds and bang its all over so much more quicker and harder compared to feeding the frozen food to my others they seem lazy compared to the live feeders |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:30:10
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Originally posted by Danny Action1
With the live food aswell its seconds and bang its all over so much more quicker and harder compared to feeding the frozen food to my others they seem lazy compared to the live feeders
I have to source live babies first...so far i have drawn two blanks in trying to get some. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:41:25
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quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit
I have to source live babies first...so far i have drawn two blanks in trying to get some.
could try on the dark side, ask if anyone near you breeds their own? |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 18:20:10
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there is someone, but she is in Essex, milessssssss
from me, will ask around, just went up to check her temps and she poked her head out of her hide to see what i was doing, bless her.
maybe hugnry, but she can wait till next weekend, if i dont succeed, i will be heading up to you GP....sorry-) |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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-- Source Unknown
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Edited by - wolfspirit on 10/05/2009 18:26:11 |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 13:18:37
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how quick will i get hung if i ask on the dark side?
i mean for live rat pups? |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 13:36:23
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| Depends how you put it across, I think generally there is a positive attitude towards live feeding if other methods have been exhausted and it is necessary. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 13:45:46
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| ok, will wait first till this weekend is over.. then decide.. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 16:15:26
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There are always people with rats free to a good home  |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 16:40:44
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quote:
Originally posted by matty18714
There are always people with rats free to a good home
lol..
i could not breed them and then feed them to my snakes... |
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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 22:12:07
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| i would have no problem feeding live,probably get flamed for this but if there was NO risk of injury to my snake i would feed live to keep it as it would be for them in the wild. |
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