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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27/05/2009 : 21:57:43
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Originally posted by anatess
I don't feed the snakes anymore. It's been months now. The kids and my husband do it now. I did it the first few months just to make sure the kids learn how to do it properly. The first time was tough because I wasn't a snake-lover then. I've always had hamster pets and I was one of those people that would grab a shovel if I see a snake and try to chop it's head off.
But, I've really learned to love these creepy crawlies. So, feeding them is just an extension of that. I mean, I feel real terrible for the rats, but, I understand it's necessary for the snake's health, and you learn to appreciate the law of nature. You also learn to appreciate the snake's natural hunting instinct. That's why I opted to feed live instead of using the CO2 bag for the royals. They are much better at it than I am, that's for sure. The hognose is a bit different. When I first fed him, I cried my eyes out! He doesn't constrict, so it took a LOOOONNNNGGG time for the rat. So, the CO2 bag is definitely MUCH better than the hognose's venom.
One thing though, you can't look away before the snake gets that rat fully constricted. A lot of things can happen and you have to be there to intervene if needed.
Thanks Anatess...
the looking bit was the bit with the C02 chamber, not with the snake constricting it...
I would be okish with the snake doing it...
though i never watched Kaz with the multi pup...
i would with an older one, i think it is awesome how they kill them...
my only problem with all of this is the rat did not chose to be bred into this world to be killed for us to feed our snakes..
i cant word what i am trying to say, guess i feel kind of guilty that something had to die because i keep snakes...lol.. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:04:29
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this is a good video
THIS IS LIVE FEEDING so dont watch if it offends you in anyway
and something he says here about getting royals into feeding mode, i kind of do with mine anyway, and that is i defrost in the same room..
must try that with Kaz;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl9jqKCdAB8 |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:05:06
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
Thanks Anatess...
the looking bit was the bit with the C02 chamber, not with the snake constricting it...
I would be okish with the snake doing it...
though i never watched Kaz with the multi pup...
i would with an older one, i think it is awesome how they kill them...
my only problem with all of this is the rat did not chose to be bred into this world to be killed for us to feed our snakes..
i cant word what i am trying to say, guess i feel kind of guilty that something had to die because i keep snakes...lol..
Sorry, I realized what you were asking so I edited my post. I wasn't quick enough with it though! 
You know, I'm pretty sure I know exactly what you're trying to say. I've had that same discussion with my husband. What he told me is, everybody who owns royals feed them rodents. Whether it came from a store in nice little frozen baggies or from their own rat colony, there's really no difference as far as the rat goes. And, there's also no difference from our carnivorous pitcher plant who eats insects. And, there's also no difference from the hamburger we just had at McDonald's. But, the main difference is, with our own rat colony, we KNOW the rats are well taken cared of and that they have good quality lives.
I don't know if that makes a difference... |
        
Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:12:00
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Originally posted by anatess
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
Thanks Anatess...
the looking bit was the bit with the C02 chamber, not with the snake constricting it...
I would be okish with the snake doing it...
though i never watched Kaz with the multi pup...
i would with an older one, i think it is awesome how they kill them...
my only problem with all of this is the rat did not chose to be bred into this world to be killed for us to feed our snakes..
i cant word what i am trying to say, guess i feel kind of guilty that something had to die because i keep snakes...lol..
Sorry, I realized what you were asking so I edited my post. I wasn't quick enough with it though!
You know, I'm pretty sure I know exactly what you're trying to say. I've had that same discussion with my husband. What he told me is, everybody who owns royals feed them rodents. Whether it came from a store in nice little frozen baggies or from their own rat colony, there's really no difference as far as the rat goes. And, there's also no difference from our carnivorous pitcher plant who eats insects. And, there's also no difference from the hamburger we just had at McDonald's. But, the main difference is, with our own rat colony, we KNOW the rats are well taken cared of and that they have good quality lives.
I don't know if that makes a difference...
I hear you, i just have to get over the guilty feeling that i am ending the life of something...
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"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:19:03
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
my only problem with all of this is the rat did not chose to be bred into this world to be killed for us to feed our snakes..
You could think about that in a differant way. If you didnt breed it, it wouldnt have a life. So is it cruel breeding it for a purpose or cruel not breeding it at all? Is it better to have a short good life or a short miserable one?
(I have almost started debating with myself  ) |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:24:16
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Originally posted by matty18714
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
my only problem with all of this is the rat did not chose to be bred into this world to be killed for us to feed our snakes..
You could think about that in a differant way. If you didnt breed it, it wouldnt have a life. So is it cruel breeding it for a purpose or cruel not breeding it at all? Is it better to have a short good life or a short miserable one?
(I have almost started debating with myself )
yes, or i look at it this way, if i dont feed it to a snake then it lives its life out to the full..
I think the reason i am finding this hard is because i used to rescue rodents..
what was you debating?..lol.. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:27:48
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
this is a good video
THIS IS LIVE FEEDING so dont watch if it offends you in anyway
and something he says here about getting royals into feeding mode, i kind of do with mine anyway, and that is i defrost in the same room..
must try that with Kaz;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl9jqKCdAB8
I LOVE ADAM WYSOCKI! This is my favorite of all favorite ball python feeding videos of all time. And he touches a bit on that dilemma we both have Anne! |
Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
Edited by - anatess on 27/05/2009 22:28:23 |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:28:27
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
what was you debating?..lol..
Today I was thinking about how I justify keeping pets (odd I know..). Then I thought the only pet I can really justify keeping is my cat. She doesnt have to come back, can can leave any time she wants but chooses to come back. |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:29:58
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Originally posted by matty18714
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
what was you debating?..lol..
Today I was thinking about how I justify keeping pets (odd I know..). Then I thought the only pet I can really justify keeping is my cat. She doesnt have to come back, can can leave any time she wants but chooses to come back.
We used to have 2 cats. They would come back with a dead lizard in their mouths!  |
Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:43:06
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Originally posted by matty18714
Today I was thinking about how I justify keeping pets (odd I know..). Then I thought the only pet I can really justify keeping is my cat. She doesnt have to come back, can can leave any time she wants but chooses to come back.
They come back cos you feed them and your the boss..lol..
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Originally posted by anatess
We used to have 2 cats. They would come back with a dead lizard in their mouths!
one of my cats used to dump half eaten mice in my kitchen, i lost count the times i would see its insides hanging out and what not.. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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-- Source Unknown
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal
1971 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:48:53
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my cat (who sadly passed away earlier this year) had a penchant for sneaking into peoples homes and stealing their pet birds.
i lost count of the various cockateils and budgies he came home with ^_^ |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2009 : 22:49:35
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Originally posted by MissCat
my cat (who sadly passed away earlier this year) had a penchant for sneaking into peoples homes and stealing their pet birds.
i lost count of the various cockateils and budgies he came home with ^_^
How many owners were chasing your cat...lol.. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2009 : 08:51:42
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Originally posted by MissCat
my cat (who sadly passed away earlier this year) had a penchant for sneaking into peoples homes and stealing their pet birds.
i lost count of the various cockateils and budgies he came home with ^_^
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 18:38:58
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Originally posted by Danny Action1
Yeah i can make you one if you want just wont be able to send the gas in the post but you can buy the Co2 and regulator in halfords.I can make you one just like mine if you like or bigger or smaller just let us know
Cheers Danny
Hi Danny, before i go , can you let me know the costs and how to pay you for one of these, decided i could not do any of the nasty stuff to kill them..
my email is in my profile..
Thank you so much i also need instructions how much gas to use for Multis..
Thanks again |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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Danny Action1
Yearling
United Kingdom
322 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 19:22:12
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Ok do you want same size chamber as mine??? mine is a (9L tube) Also all my fittings are based on the Halfords Co2 and there Regulator so my fittings will only fit halfords stuff wich you will have to get as i can not send the Gas in the post
You will need
Halfords Plain Co2
Halfords Regulator
wich cost me £32 last week just on those 2 items
I can supply
9L Box
plus fittings and all the holes done
and its all push fit aswell well easy to put together
Cheers Danny |
0.1.0 Lemmon Pastel
0.1.0 Albino
1.0.0 Spider
1.0.0 Pastel
1.1.0 Mojave
1.0.0 Het Pied
0.1.0 Pied
0.1.0 Pinstripe
1.0.0 Double het Caramel Glow
0.1.0 Het Orange Ghost
0.1.0 Het Caramel |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 22:19:32
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Originally posted by Danny Action1
Ok do you want same size chamber as mine??? mine is a (9L tube) Also all my fittings are based on the Halfords Co2 and there Regulator so my fittings will only fit halfords stuff wich you will have to get as i can not send the Gas in the post
You will need
Halfords Plain Co2
Halfords Regulator
wich cost me £32 last week just on those 2 items
I can supply
9L Box
plus fittings and all the holes done
and its all push fit aswell well easy to put together
Cheers Danny
thats fine Danny, thanks
can you email me all the stuff and how i pay you etc etc
thank you, your a star.. |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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