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vicki
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  12:07:46  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
hi i have just bought a royal python and lovin her!! have a concern about the temp needed in her viv tho as different ppl are saying diff temps?? i have heat mat and 25w normal bulb up one end the temp is only 72f (ish) is this ok if not any tips on how to get it warmer for her?
thanx x

Blackecho
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  12:09:13  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Hi, welcome to the forum, 72F is quite low, I don't think my house ever gets down to that, how are you measuring it?

You're looking for ~90F at the hot end.



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Blackecho
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  12:15:58  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1428

Try this thread, its a similar problem.



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vicki
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  12:22:04  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
thanx for that! the heat mat is under the viv not in it is this rite? and the ppl at the shop put loads of chips in wud this stop it gettin up to temp? they gave us a themomiter at the shop so usin that to measure temp. that thread was gd thanx but just said to leave mat on 24/7 which i am doin??

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Blackecho
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  14:15:47  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Are you using a dial thermometer or a digital one?

Is it on the substrate or further up as a heatmat will not heat the air?

As long as the heatmat is on a thermostat you can leave it on all the time, this is what most people do.

If the viv is glass or plastic then yes the heatmat should be under the viv, but it must be in contact with the viv, if there is an air gap between them the heat will not get through.



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vicki
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  15:44:51  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
we are usin a dial and it is sittin on the substrate. we have just brought a bigger heatmat that covers 2/3 and a smller one on the back to get the temp up is that ok? we have turned off the bulb

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matty18714
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  16:24:38  Show Profile
sounds a bit extreme to me. I have to ask but is the viv glass or wood? And are the heat mats on the inside or the outside?

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vicki
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  18:11:13  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
the viv is plastic as she is only a baby and thats wot we were told to put her in. the heatmats are on the outside on the bottom and back

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Blackecho
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  18:23:07  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
To be honest one heatmat covering 1/3 of the floorspace should be sufficient.

If you cover 2/3 it won't give as much of a temperature gradient across the viv.



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vicki
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  18:28:06  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
we did only have one mat but it was only gettin up to 70f but its now gettin up to 75f with both heatmats and a lamp. its got quite a thick layer of substrate wud this stop it warmin up?

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matty18714
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  18:28:14  Show Profile
The temps with 1/3 of the floor space covered should be enough. What sort of surface is the heat mat touching on the bottom?

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vicki
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  18:30:56  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
its standin on a towel then the viv is on top of the heatmat and towel

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vicki
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  18:32:18  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
the mat is on a towel

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Gingerpony
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  20:25:36  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
the dial thermometers are notoriously inaccurate! try thinning the substrate over the hot end/heatmat so the heat can get through to the snake, also is the thermometer inside the warm hide? that's where it's best measuring the temp as that's where the snake will be.

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Blackecho
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Posted - 20/10/2008 :  22:26:35  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Also not sure how much heat the towel will be absorbing, maybe try some foil between the heatmat and the towel.



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vicki
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Posted - 21/10/2008 :  08:44:09  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
thanx for all the ideas! we have thinned out the substrate and put in some foil and its goin up! feel more relaxed now was startin to worry

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