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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 30/05/2009 : 19:47:18
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I asked Kaz if this would be a good idea and she never squirmed so here is how i set up a 9L rub.
Many problems people have with young/baby royals is down to how they are housed.
This size RUB can be used for young royals, I have added two types of set up, the first one is for royals that are not feeding or proving difficult to feed consistently, the second one is for normal young royals who are established feeders, and the photo is courtesy of BlackEcho.
You will need the following items for your rub.
RUB ( Really Useful Box)
Heat Mat
Mat Stat & Digital Thermometer x2 or One With Two Probes
Substrate, you could use Kitchen roll/Newspaper or Aspen
 
Hides moss box (optional) and a water bowl
and a drill for making small ventilation holes in the lid and sides of the rub.
This is one finished RUB that is currently being used for a difficult feeding royal.
The use of so many hides in this RUB is to help make the young snake feel secure, you may not need so many in your RUB (see image below), but most royals like to feel cramped.
With this RUB i also surround it with cardboard to make it darker and more secure.
To Start with I drilled holes in the sides of the rub and also 10 more across the top,
these holes do not need to be big just enough to allow air to circulate and still retain heat.
I then added my substrate, for this i use kitchen roll as it is safe for feeding in the rub, but you can use aspen.
I then added the hides.
Because i am using two hides in this RUB i placed the heatmat stat probe in between the two hides, along with the digital thermometer probe, to place the probes you will need to drill a hole big enough for the probe to fit through.
Depending on the thickness of your thermometer wire you may need to add a second hole for this probe. Mine fits nicely through the lid without having to worry about any escapees getting through the gap.
If you are using a single hide in the warm end, then it is recommended to place both the thermostat probe and the digital thermometer probe inside the warm end hide.
WARNING without a mat stat the temperature of an unstatted heatmat can quickly reach temperatures of 45°C (115°F). This can lead to serious burns to your snake.
In the cool end i have added on hide and a moss box, the moss box is there to aid the snake when it is going to shed.
This link shows you how to prepare moss
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=710
I use a small margarine tub, and cut a hole in the front, making sure there are no sharp edges to the entrance that the snake can cut itself on and add the moss.
I put the water bowl in and a small cut down plant pot.
Finally i place the RUB on top of the heat mat.
Image courtesy of Blackecho.
The mat should cover one-third to one-half of the viv, to ensure that a temperature gradient is created.
This is the second RUB in this one you can clearly see the probes going into the rub, again there is a nice hide in the warm end a moss box water bowl and another hide.
Image courtesy of Blackecho
I hope this will be of use, if anything needs changing please say so  
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"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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Edited by - wolfspirit on 30/05/2009 19:53:56 |
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Dazzetski
Yearling
United Kingdom
461 Posts |
Posted - 30/05/2009 : 20:18:35
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Sticky me thinks!  |
 
0.2.0 Cats (Spud & Phoebe) RIP Stevie fat man
1.1.0 Royals (Syd & Sofia)
2.2.3 Corns (Hogan, Shaggy, Sparkle, Tango, Fred, Haribo & Go Faster)
0.0.1 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Escobar)
1.1.0 Variable King Snakes (Lancelot & Guinaverre)
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 30/05/2009 : 20:22:53
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lol..
it might not be good enough yet...
will wait and see what the others think first;-)
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"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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Lewy
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
10260 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 13:23:51
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Copied to 'How to' section.
It's great Wolfspirit thanks. Will have to copy it to the other sites too |
Lewy
THE ROYAL PYTHON.co.uk Team
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 13:30:43
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Originally posted by Lewy
Copied to 'How to' section.
It's great Wolfspirit thanks. Will have to copy it to the other sites too
Thank you, 
glad it is ok..
the other one is coming later today... |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 20:02:14
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Originally posted by lee2308
very handy for newbies
Thanks Lee, i was beginning to think it was crap
i appreciate you-) |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 20:19:09
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| I agree, it will be helpful for new keepers |
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal
1971 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 22:58:08
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| i used this guide today actually when sorting out the rub for Athena :D |
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katty91
Snake Mite
28 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 23:12:54
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| Ooh yes very handy. Thanks for this, definitely helps! :) |
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spor
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 23:31:34
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| very good guide and well deserves high praise. |
0.4.0 Royal Python
1.0.0 Pastel Royal
0.1.0 Spider Royal
1.1.0 Carolina Corn Snake
1.0.0 Normal Stripe Corn
1.0.0 Yellow Bellied Turtle
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2009 : 07:30:19
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quote:
Originally posted by spor
very good guide and well deserves high praise.
Thanks Spor , good luck with your royals..
it will be something to remember me by i guess...
but i did not do it for praise, it is to help royals hopefully.
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"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown
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chris100575
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
743 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2009 : 08:47:17
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I'd vote for this to be sticky, it's clear and easy to follow. I went straight to a viv with Princess, so I've never set up a RUB and it'll be handy if I get another snake. :-)
Plus at first everyone was talking about RUBs and I had no idea what one was! |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Princess
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2009 : 16:52:45
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| Its already posted and locked under the DIY section |
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katty91
Snake Mite
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Posted - 02/06/2009 : 13:44:43
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Hey I have a stupid question..lol
Until what age/length can you keep a royal in this size RUB for? |
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spor
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 15:14:42
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quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit
quote:
Originally posted by spor
very good guide and well deserves high praise.
Thanks Spor , good luck with your royals..
it will be something to remember me by i guess...
but i did not do it for praise, it is to help royals hopefully.
I know you didn't do it for praise thats more the reason why you deserve it. |
0.4.0 Royal Python
1.0.0 Pastel Royal
0.1.0 Spider Royal
1.1.0 Carolina Corn Snake
1.0.0 Normal Stripe Corn
1.0.0 Yellow Bellied Turtle
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 15:55:34
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Originally posted by katty91
Hey I have a stupid question..lol
Until what age/length can you keep a royal in this size RUB for?
Some people keep fully grown adults in 50L RUB's. |
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karl
Fully Grown Royal
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Posted - 02/06/2009 : 23:35:08
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| well done, clear and concise |
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