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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  12:23:17  Show Profile
I picked up four multis today, they are all just weaned...

and they are so gorgeous.

this is one of them



i cant take there lives..i cried all the way home ...and it was a 40 mile journey to go get them, i looked at them fed and watered them, then looked at the tiny one that is for Kaz, and i cant do it...i cant end her life..


and i killed a pheasant cos is sat in the middle of the road and i did not slow down quickly enough, i thought it would get out of the way.






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now and make a brand new ending."
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antw23uk
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:21:28  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address
Aww bless you, this is not good. I cant offer any advise, i know i couldnt do it either.

Dont worry about the pheasent, stupid bloody birds, if you had slowed down in time it probably would have thrown itself under the wheel anyway, lol

So three new pets wolfspirit?

Ant.
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lee2308
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:27:30  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
just get on with it and chuck it in lol even though it's giving you puppy eyes

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chris100575
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:28:14  Show Profile
That is exactly why I hope I never have to live feed. I would do it ahead of force feeding if needs be, but I'd hate it.

Ant's right, pheasants are stupid. I've nearly had a couple of them because they insist on wandering into the road and standing in front of cars. BTW, I hope you didn't take the pheasant home for tea, you could get done for poaching!

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:32:18  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by antw23uk

Aww bless you, this is not good. I cant offer any advise, i know i couldnt do it either.

Dont worry about the pheasent, stupid bloody birds, if you had slowed down in time it probably would have thrown itself under the wheel anyway, lol

So three new pets wolfspirit?



I have some bad news for you,

I did it...

I gave Kazz the smallest one that was meant for her,

I had to she has not fed since 20th May and whilst that is not a long time it is a long time for an underweight royal...


It was over very quickly, i would say forty seconds from strike to starting to eat it, so death must have been quick..thank fully..and the multi did not suffer, and i had to watch as this thing had teeth.

i still feel bad, but also relieved that Kazz has eaten...

so mixed emotions right now...



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now and make a brand new ending."
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chris100575
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:39:04  Show Profile
You did the right thing, Kaz needed food. I know it must be unpleasant and I wouldn't like do it myself, but it's nature.

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:41:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by chris100575

You did the right thing, Kaz needed food. I know it must be unpleasant and I wouldn't like do it myself, but it's nature.



it was really hard, but i felt great that Kazz had a meal..that she badly needed..

Maybe in time she will go to defrost, but if she does not i have to live with it...

i suppose it will be easier in time..



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lee2308
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:47:23  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
well done anne

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chris100575
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:47:31  Show Profile
Someone with more experience would have a better idea, but I'd have thought that if you get a couple of live feeds down her it would give you more opportunity to persist with defrost without worrying about her starving.

Try to take comfort from the fact that you did something you found difficult because it was in Kazz's best interests, rather than abdicate responsibility because you found it distasteful. It shows strength of character that you did what was right for Kazz.

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  13:55:17  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by chris100575

Someone with more experience would have a better idea, but I'd have thought that if you get a couple of live feeds down her it would give you more opportunity to persist with defrost without worrying about her starving.

Try to take comfort from the fact that you did something you found difficult because it was in Kazz's best interests, rather than abdicate responsibility because you found it distasteful. It shows strength of character that you did what was right for Kazz.



Thats the trouble i cant get a supply of what i need to try and get her converted..hence me buying the ones i did for breeding, but this will take around another 8 weeks and they are slow growers, but prolific breeders.

So in between i am going to have to trek to and from Royston every week, but....there is the B.R.A.S show in Brentwood beginning of June...

i am hoping to get another breeding trio then..



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anatess
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  14:11:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit
i suppose it will be easier in time..



quote:
Originally posted by chris100575
Try to take comfort from the fact that you did something you found difficult because it was in Kazz's best interests, rather than abdicate responsibility because you found it distasteful. It shows strength of character that you did what was right for Kazz.



Oh Anne! I think I can actually say I know exactly what you feel right now! Chris said it PERFECTLY. It shows a strength of character to do something distasteful but necessary.

I hate to be such a drab, but in my experience, it doesn't really get easier in time. You still feel the gut-wrenching every single week. You just tend to come to grips with it in your head faster.

GOOD JOB! I'm sure Kaz' life is much better now.

Lots of love flying over the Atlantic to ya!


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wolfspirit
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  14:15:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by anatess



Oh Anne! I think I can actually say I know exactly what you feel right now! Chris said it PERFECTLY. It shows a strength of character to do something distasteful but necessary.

I hate to be such a drab, but in my experience, it doesn't really get easier in time. You still feel the gut-wrenching every single week. You just tend to come to grips with it in your head faster.

GOOD JOB! I'm sure Kaz' life is much better now.

Lots of love flying over the Atlantic to ya!



even though i am relieved she fed,

I still feel really crap ..she was so tiny...

maybe i should teach Casey to do it, as he does not like snakes or mice that much so he would not have any emotional attachment, but if there was trouble he would not stop it...

and thanks;-)



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  14:16:48  Show Profile
i need a strong drink..lol..



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now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown





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Blackecho
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  14:35:56  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Well done Anne, you did what's right for the snake regardless of your feelings, a true snake lover



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  14:39:10  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Well done Anne, you did what's right for the snake regardless of your feelings, a true snake lover



But i took a life..

that is what is so hard, she did not die of ill health or a snake in the wild, it was me who took her life..

I dont expect you to understand...its part of who i am is all..



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antw23uk
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  16:36:27  Show Profile  Click to see antw23uk's MSN Messenger address
Oh hold on i thought YOU had to kill it, lol .... sorry i got confused....

Nah chuck it in, let it get eaten, its only some horrible furball

I will join you in that drink. I fancy vodka tonight

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karl
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  16:37:56  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage
If u didn't feel remorse you wouldn't be an animal lover. Me, I just rationalize things to make me feel better.

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dazb
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  17:00:20  Show Profile
Dont worry about it too much Anne... At least it wasnt killed for fun or some useless reason. its death served a pupose...

As for converting it to defrost, I would do a couple of live feeds, then try a fresh killed feed, hopefully she will take it. Then once she takes a few of them i would then try some you have frozen...



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  17:10:07  Show Profile
thanks Daz,

Have you done this before then?

am getting merry now, ...lol



"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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matty18714
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  17:14:16  Show Profile
Well Done Anne, it needed doing. I agree with Daz in that it was killed for a purpose and not for sport.

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dazb
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Posted - 04/06/2009 :  17:33:03  Show Profile
No worries Anne. I have never had the need to as yet...




Edited by - dazb on 04/06/2009 17:33:21
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