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blundey
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  15:38:33  Show Profile
Im in two minds. I think the ceramic would be best as its gives off no visual light. Im not sure really. Ive seen different case studys saying that snakes CAN see the red light the infra red bulbs give off....

Your thoughts?

Lewy
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  15:47:39  Show Profile  Visit Lewy's Homepage
Not got any experience with infa-red. Although we have a ceramic on a pulse stat for our royal and the temps are always perfect with no light stress whatsoever. I would recommend a ceramic.

Anyone with Infra-red experience?

Lewy

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blundey
Hatchling

86 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  15:51:16  Show Profile
Do you have a link on ebay to a cermic bulb/w holder and guard? I used to have one saved but for some reason lost it! Was really cheap too :(
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blundey
Hatchling

86 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  15:56:42  Show Profile
Nevermind! Found it http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Complete-ceramic-bulb-heater-kit-for-reptiles-vivarium_W0QQitemZ220427496780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects?hash=item335280ad4c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

^ good price?
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blundey
Hatchling

86 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  16:01:22  Show Profile
and the link to the bad red light: http://www.anapsid.org/sight.html
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blundey
Hatchling

86 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  16:25:17  Show Profile
Basically I need a Ceramic then, nad i want this for a 3 foot viv. Can I use a 60w ceramic ? If so can this be used with a mat stat 100?
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chris100575
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United Kingdom
743 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  16:41:56  Show Profile
I'm using infra-red. The temps are spot on, and the light's quite dim at night when I drop the temp a few degrees. I'm convinced that snakes can see red light, but I've heard that when using an infra-red bulb it's like dusk to them.

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Blackecho
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  18:12:16  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
I use IR in all my vivs.



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dazb
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  18:19:18  Show Profile
I run 250w ceramics on PP stats in my 3 foot vivs...



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matty18714
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  18:30:45  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

I run 250w ceramics on PP stats in my 3 foot vivs...



But how many problems did you have

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dazb
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  18:36:32  Show Profile
only cos i am using a viv stack...

TBH all my royals will end up in a rack and RUBS...I will use my viv stack for other stuff...



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blundey
Hatchling

86 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2009 :  08:40:32  Show Profile
Can ceramics be used with ON/OFF stats? And is 250 watt ceramic REALLY neccessary, ive seen people have beardie viv setups with 100W in a 4ft viv! No way your using all 250 watts
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dazb
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Posted - 09/06/2009 :  09:08:56  Show Profile
Ceramics cam be used with on/off stats but is not recommended...IMO it would shorten the life span alot cos of the consstant on/off(heating/cooling) a pulse or dimmer is wot is recommendend...

As with the size, it is personal preference really if it is on a stat. if you put a 100w in it will work alot harder than a 150w/250w therefore it will probably shorten the life of the ceramic. 150w and 250w are the same price, and if it run of a stat the wattage is not really important as it will only run at full power to achieve the intial temp.

hope this helps...



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blundey
Hatchling

86 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2009 :  11:29:24  Show Profile
Thats a great help, thanks.
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wolfspirit
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/06/2009 :  11:51:50  Show Profile
i prefer ceramics to I/R think they are much better,



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lee2308
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Posted - 09/06/2009 :  17:44:34  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
i use i/r and once the vivs upto temp you can hardly see it and the temps are spot on,well the warm end is.

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