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EmmaGordon7
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27/01/2009 : 12:38:21
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Hello, some advise would be appreciated please?
I have been feeding Monty in his viv since I got him but I have read that I should take him out and put him in another tub to feed him? It also says to not handle him after feeding him - this may be a really silly question but how do I get him back in his viv after he has eaten!!??  |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 12:49:16
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There is no should, some people feed out of the viv to make sure no substrate is ingested accidentally, I don't.
If you choose to then you can handle them carefully to move them back in, just do it carefully with as little movement as possible. |
 
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EmmaGordon7
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 12:56:44
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Oh ok - I did think that but seem to have read it in so many places that I was getting worried!!
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 15:10:32
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I feed all of my reps in their vivs. As long as they are on a suitable substrate it shouldn't be a problem.
I feed my fish in their tank too  . |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 16:52:19
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Originally posted by Paulusworm
I feed all of my reps in their vivs. As long as they are on a suitable substrate it shouldn't be a problem.
I feed my fish in their tank too .
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 18:49:49
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i feed both my royals in their vivs cos they wont feed outside. when i put them in a RUB spend all their time exploring the new surroundings.
the reasons people say dont feed in the vivs usually because of the chance of ingesting substrate and causing impaction and so they dont start associating your hand with feeding time.
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 19:52:53
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| i feed the corns in tubs outside their vivs, for the substrate ingestion and confusing hands with food issues. the royal i feed in his viv as he's unlikely to take food outside his own happy space and the same for the Dumerils boa. the royal is on orchid bark which is quite large lumps, they don't stick to food items like beech chippings or aspen can, so is unlikely to be ingested. and the boa is on paper. |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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I-M
Hatchling
United Kingdom
68 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 20:54:52
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Originally posted by Paulusworm
I feed all of my reps in their vivs. As long as they are on a suitable substrate it shouldn't be a problem.
I feed my fish in their tank too .
We feed our Royal out of the viv, but I have never tried the same with our fish!!! 
We try to let him slither back into the viv on his own, now that he is getting a bit bigger. Though, at the moment, he has stopped eating... |
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blundey
Hatchling
86 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 22:52:07
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| I fed in the viv to, when and if the substrate gets stuck on the rat (which it shouldnt unless wet) then when the food item is sliding into the mouth, the snakes lips slide the substrate off, as its quite a tight fit, anything loose seems to slide off. Obviously this wont ALWAYS be the case...but its the most logical |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 23:32:48
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| I feed out of the viv because I use the time to clean the space and check out all probes/etc. During non-feeding days when the snakes are out, I don't want to have to be the one stuck cleaning the vivs while everyone else gets all the fun! We don't particularly like watching them eat, so we're all fine with getting cleaning assignments then! |
        
Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
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shaunb
Hatchling
United Kingdom
75 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 00:24:30
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| i feed out the viv cos i dont wanna get struck by my big boy |
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Mulv
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
530 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 05:32:28
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Originally posted by Gingerpony
i feed the corns in tubs outside their vivs, for the substrate ingestion and confusing hands with food issues. the royal i feed in his viv as he's unlikely to take food outside his own happy space and the same for the Dumerils boa.
Second that. Corn gets fed in a washing up bowl because he's hardier when it comes to eating but my Royal is on newspaper at the moment anyway so I feed him inside his faun.
If you do feed outside, when you put them back in just keep it as short as possible and try not to grip or pick him up where the lump in his belly is. |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 06:42:41
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| I would say you're much more likely to get struck handling a snake that's in feeding mode when transferring it to and from a feeding tub. |
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blundey
Hatchling
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Posted - 28/01/2009 : 09:08:11
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| Agree there ^. I got Indy's hide up yesterday, and i guess he was hnigry and in feeding mode as he hissed and went to strike mode. So i just offered food and then BAM. Screw putting my hands in to move him in that state! |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 16:24:46
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I feed out of the viv because of the risk of impaction, and I dont want any rat smell in the viv that could start the royals feeding mentality. Also it means I can change the water while its eating, as they like to drink alot after.
As for feeding outside the viv to stop the snake thinking its being fed when you put your hand in, its something to think about, but I dont really agree. You could equaly argue that the snake could think its being fed each time its removed from the viv (however the movemnt out of the viv could be "interesting" enough to them to stop them from thinking about food). |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 17:00:02
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Originally posted by matty18714
I feed in the viv because of the risk of impaction
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 17:20:23
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| im confused matty...you going for in or out the viv as the best choice??? |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 18:39:15
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Im for feeding outside of the viv, I just like to keep you and BE on your toes (typo on my part)
Im for feeding out of the viv, but not because of the association issue, just because of what I said in the first half of my last post. (edited correction in my last post) |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 20:23:49
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Originally posted by Blackecho
I would say you're much more likely to get struck handling a snake that's in feeding mode when transferring it to and from a feeding tub.
very true. but with the corns i leave them a good 10 mins after they've finished feeding, giving them a chance to settle down and feel full. i've established this routine with all the snakes i feed outside their vivs and it works for me  |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 20:39:59
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mine are becoming increasingly more difficult to feed outside them viv in RUBs.
they are just more interested in exploring. Think it maybe also be to do having a municiple feeding RUB...
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2009 : 22:09:19
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Originally posted by Gingerpony
with the corns i leave them a good 10 mins after they've finished feeding, giving them a chance to settle down and feel full. i've established this routine with all the snakes i feed outside their vivs and it works for me
I tried this a while back and I cant get it to work, I have yet to free handle my corn back to her viv after feeding (The viv and the rub are about 3 feet away). I dont really fancy a tagging, and if I jump, I could hurt her little teeth.
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